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Whilst I understand that having a win taken off the boards makes it feel like the admins are cheating you for the sake of others, it is my belief that the result was skewed by Colombia ending their scouting process earlier and hence having more entusiasm on game day than Australia.

The enthusiasm reset is supposed to ensure that all national teams play their first competitive game on 5. So is it wrong for us to feel that if the result stands, we're the ones getting cheated?

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 08/23/2019 11:50:36

Feel free to CT them, and please don't look at the 02/09 game :p

Budol says:
Actually, I think that the teams that CTed should play CT for sure, they tried to take advantage of a possible non enth drop, and I see that as a bug abuse (not all of them).

Game should be replayed for sure, but with the same attitude played before.

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i think so, too


recalculates the games in the background with the same setting only the correct ENTH


regards Elliss

Last edited by Elliss [GER-U21 Coach] at 08/23/2019 16:58:09

Budol says:
Actually, I think that the teams that CTed should play CT for sure, they tried to take advantage of a possible non enth drop, and I see that as a bug abuse (not all of them).

Game should be replayed for sure, but with the same attitude played before.

....

i think so, too


recalculates the games in the background with the same setting only the correct ENTH


regards Elliss

I think this is the right way

"Budol says:
Actually, I think that the teams that CTed should play CT for sure, they tried to take advantage of a possible non enth drop, and I see that as a bug abuse (not all of them).

Game should be replayed for sure, but with the same attitude played before.

....

i think so, too


recalculates the games in the background with the same setting only the correct ENTH


regards Elliss"

Interesting. So you think that since on a regular situation Israel wouldn't choose to go crunch time against Nigeria, it probably means our manager is a cheater that tried to take advantage of the situation. You're saying our manager wasn't confused like everyone else from not knowing what's going on during a unique situation that never occurred in 46 BB season. Nope, Not him, He knew. The truth is that he used his psychic abilities (He had some pretty good guesses over the last few years, so it's pretty safe to say he have them) to know that the enthusiasm would be reset the next day, so he could crunch and beat our fiercest and hardest rival - Nigeria and then get back to 5.
There is no way that he was confused like everyone else and wasn't sure what he should do while facing an inferior opponent with better enthusiasm who might decide to use it against us. No, again, as a psychic, he knew what's going to happen, and therefore tried to take advantage of the situation.

What's a bit unclear to me is what's happening now. Cause I kind of feel like you two - Elliss and Budol - even though lacking psychics abilities (as far as I know anyway)- are trying to take advantage of the situation yourself! Doing so by hurting other teams chances by asking Marin to ruin their enthusiasm. And again, Our manager is a psychic, he knew, he should probably pay the price. But what about the non-psychic managers? why should they suffer? Oh, because it'll make your team situation better. Sorry, that's an argument I really can't beat. Or maybe that's what you meant by "not all of them"? Only the non-psychic? cause if so, I couldn't agree more.

Last edited by Bill_tipesh at 08/23/2019 18:34:03

I deliberately did not name a nation and I will not go into that. it's just my opinion.

But you say : "are trying to take advantage of the situation yourself! Doing so by hurting other teams chances by asking Marin to ruin their enthusiasm"

I don´t think the already qualified teams are the ones who are disadvantaged.
how would you handle that fairly?

But our initial plan wasn't to go CT against a far inferior team. Do you honestly believe that was the plan from the start? We changed it very close to game time cause we didn't know how to handle a crazy situation when we face an inferior team that does has some enthusiasm when we got none on the first game of the season. There was no guarantee that any fix will be made and we might have lost our chances to qualify on the first game.

And it's great it's just your opinion, I'm just troubled about the fact didn't support your claim that people were trying to take advantage with any actual facts or even a solid explanation.

Btw - for Israel to leave the situation as it is, is probably the best scenario. That doesn't change the fact that I think it'll be totally unfair to leave it as it is, and I was really glad to read Marin response and see that he thought of a way to fix it. We weren't trying to get an unfair advantage. We were trying not to end our season on the very first game. What will actually happen if your opinion will be accepted by Marin.



Last edited by Bill_tipesh at 08/23/2019 20:00:24

I do not want to enter the pun that is being used in the last comments of this forum.
But I do not understand how the DT of Australia ensures that Colombia had more enthusiasm than they were on game day ... even though we had done the scout before them ... it was already done and many players had been summoned and called there was no resetting our enthusiasm I suppose equal to theirs ... our enthusiasm was 1.
Now if Australia had an enthusiasm less than 1, I can understand that the result is as unfair as they say it is ... otherwise I don't understand it.

On the other hand I come back and say ... the fairest way to solve this inconvenience is to have the parties resuscitated with enthusiasm in 5 but on equal terms at the first date ... same forms and everything else.