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I deliberately did not name a nation and I will not go into that. it's just my opinion.

But you say : "are trying to take advantage of the situation yourself! Doing so by hurting other teams chances by asking Marin to ruin their enthusiasm"

I don´t think the already qualified teams are the ones who are disadvantaged.
how would you handle that fairly?

But our initial plan wasn't to go CT against a far inferior team. Do you honestly believe that was the plan from the start? We changed it very close to game time cause we didn't know how to handle a crazy situation when we face an inferior team that does has some enthusiasm when we got none on the first game of the season. There was no guarantee that any fix will be made and we might have lost our chances to qualify on the first game.

And it's great it's just your opinion, I'm just troubled about the fact didn't support your claim that people were trying to take advantage with any actual facts or even a solid explanation.

Btw - for Israel to leave the situation as it is, is probably the best scenario. That doesn't change the fact that I think it'll be totally unfair to leave it as it is, and I was really glad to read Marin response and see that he thought of a way to fix it. We weren't trying to get an unfair advantage. We were trying not to end our season on the very first game. What will actually happen if your opinion will be accepted by Marin.



Last edited by Bill_tipesh at 8/23/2019 8:00:24 PM

I do not want to enter the pun that is being used in the last comments of this forum.
But I do not understand how the DT of Australia ensures that Colombia had more enthusiasm than they were on game day ... even though we had done the scout before them ... it was already done and many players had been summoned and called there was no resetting our enthusiasm I suppose equal to theirs ... our enthusiasm was 1.
Now if Australia had an enthusiasm less than 1, I can understand that the result is as unfair as they say it is ... otherwise I don't understand it.

On the other hand I come back and say ... the fairest way to solve this inconvenience is to have the parties resuscitated with enthusiasm in 5 but on equal terms at the first date ... same forms and everything else.

I see replaying all the games on Wednesday without any obligations as the only right solution. All the games with not reset enthusiasm were meaningless in terms of a fair competition, so teams like Columbia should not feel inferior about this. Period.

As far as I know, based on the comments here and looking to game summaries, only two countries used crunch. I'm pretty sure you assumed the same, so to say you didn't name a nation when it can only refer for two nations? come on, give us some more credit.

Furthermore, the fact your team qualified doesn't make you an objective bystander to the situation. You would benefit from a disqualification of stronger opponents from the competition. Although strongly disagree, I believe you when you say you think that's the fair thing to do. But please, don't claim that the fact you already qualified makes you indifferent to the question who else going to qualify as well.

TBH - I don't think that there is a solution that will be fair to everyone. But I feel the solution Marin suggested is actually fairly good. Yes, it's far from perfect and there are some issues, but I found it fair because the rules and settings will be known to everyone before it'll start - so everyone will start on level terms. No one will get hurt for miss interpreting the situation.

It's also a common sense

Sorry, but forcing teams to play the same way when the initial data is totally different is nonsense.

I agree. Columbia is a great team and the enthusiasm could have, or could not have played any part. Glad it is being looked at.

Does enthusiasm have a sublevel?

Does defense act the same under 1 enthusiasm vs 1 offense as it does 5 enthusiasm vs 5 offense? The results from this weeks various games indicate something was going on... the italy game is an example.


Last edited by whitewind at 8/24/2019 2:49:43 AM

If it is true that Colombia really did have 1 enthusiasm also, ensuring that the match was fair, I'm okay with our result standing as much as I hate it. I just find it hard to believe this was actually the case when a team that is surely weaker on paper looking at the respective salaries, put up more or less similar ratings and had their way over our defence all game. Normal vs TIE isn't powerful enough on it's own to make up the difference, surely?

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 8/24/2019 5:09:43 AM

BTW: Nigeria Ent was 1. You miscouted us.