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fair enough, I doubt the OP meant to include in the discussion impossible builds and I just wanted to clarify whether that 125+ build is a realistic exercise or not.

Well that's fewer skills :) and a more reasonable aim! That's a very interesting build for a big man. I think you could drop some OD and perhaps some PA and go for 18ID-18SB and 16-17RB. It would be a very nice an unconventional big man ;)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/22/2014 12:50:48 PM

even your own player (whom I saw on the TL) wasn't close to this final build (he had high OD ID and SB but not 18 in any of them

after a second thought, I deleted my post and you have a message ;)

Last edited by Nachtmahr at 10/22/2014 3:14:37 PM

what is the most unconventional player that you have seen?

This actually reminds me of an idea I threw out a couple of season ago: (235389.1). Funny to see that more people are trending towards that type of player, but it seems it's indeed very hard to train such a player.

Maybe this is a more achievable goal: to have 1 guard and 1 big that switch positions defensively, with the following skillset:

PG: 6'9" Superstar $60k* 122 TSP
JS 11 JR 9
OD 7 HA 15
DR 15 PA 15
IS 7 ID 17
RB 16 SB 10

C: 6'7" Perennial Allstar $50k* 115 TSP
JS 11 JR 7
OD 18 HA 11
DR 14 PA 9
IS 18 ID 7
RB 15 SB 5

Admittedly the guard is relatively weak offensively, but with the ~200K salary you save you can have 3 other starters that are more expensive and make up for it. He'll be easier to train if he's a tall player because he only needs PA that's hard to train for tall players and that's not too bad either. 122 TSP seems achievable because of this. His rebounding is low for a C, but the C defending as PG has a huge edge rebounding over PG's so I hope that makes up for it.

The center seems pretty good though hard to train because of the high IS/OD combo. That's why 115 TSP seems the best achievable. He'll be good on offense while still being able to grab offensive rebounds, and has decent secondaries. On defense he can defend guards and outrebound them.

What do you say? Sounds more achievable? Will it perform well enough? Worth the 200k savings in salary?

*Salary/potential calculated using buzzer-manager.com's salary estimation.

he only needs PA that's hard to train for tall players

no. taller players train faster than small ones.
from the training speed analysis:
6'0'' --> 0.66 per training
6'6'' --> 0.70 per training
7'0'' --> 0.74 per training
7'6'' --> 0.77 per training
for 18 year old trainee, single position

JS 11 JR 7
OD 18 HA 11
DR 14 PA 9
IS 18 ID 7
RB 15 SB 5

ID 7 will be hard to keep it that low. OD and RB both train ID. If you really want to try this build you have to start with ID 1. Than there is a possibility that ID will stop at 7. But I would bet on it. 2,5 ups in OD go with 1 up in ID. And you will need at least 11 ups in OD.
As an example: ID 10 wil take a lot of cap space away. You would have to go with IS 16 or RB 13 instead.