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From: cthulhu

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326590.67 in reply to 326590.66
Date: 3/31/2025 2:59:46 AM
Suuret Muinaiset
II.4
Overall Posts Rated:
108108
Suuret Muinaiset - Full schedule:

RS Round 1: Monday, April 7th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Buckner Bandits ((133879671)): 112 - 72
RS Round 2: Friday, April 11th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Elan Demars ((133883958)): 105 - 107
RS Round 3: Monday, April 14th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Trouville BBC ((133879674)): 93 - 68
RS Round 4: Friday, April 18th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Svätý Jur Snakers ((133879675)): 76 - 91
RS Round 5: Monday, April 21st, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Wagner College ((133879673)): 99 - 96
RS Round 6: Friday, April 25th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Swan River Serpents ((133879672)): 106 - 53
RS Round 7: Monday, April 28th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Rajdersi ((133880121)): 83 - 85
RS Round 8: Friday, May 2nd, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Madrid Chotis ((133879678)): 106 - 93
RS Round 9: Monday, May 5th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Holy City Hoopers ((133885303)): 119 - 99
RS Round 10: Friday, May 9th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Les Gueux du Marais ((133883963)): 88 - 76
RS Round 11: Monday, May 12th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Big Chillers ((133884102)): 101 - 58
RS Round 12: Friday, May 16th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Heywood Big Dogs ((134896107)): 82 - 95
RS Round 13: Monday, May 19th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Lielupes Melnās Sirdis ((133879677)): 109 - 92
RS Round 14: Friday, May 23rd, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Santa Eufemia Ducks ((133880120)): 103 - 121
RS Round 15: Monday, May 26th, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs WiMaOlCa ((133879679)): 83 - 94

PO Round 1: Sunday, June 1st, 2025: Suuret Muinaiset vs Les Gueux du Marais (135007098): 106 - 93
PO Round 2: Sunday, June 8th, 2025: Santa Eufemia Ducks vs Suuret Muinaiset (135013035): 96 - 60

Last edited by cthulhu at 6/10/2025 1:24:09 AM

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326590.68 in reply to 326590.67
Date: 3/31/2025 5:24:20 AM
Rajdersi
III.11
Overall Posts Rated:
5353
Second Team:
Rajdersi II
Rajdersi

RS Round 1: Monday, April 7th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Santa Eufemia Ducks 85-107 (133879868)
RS Round 2: Friday, April 11th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. WiMaOlCa 112-109 (133879902)
RS Round 3: Monday, April 14th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Buckner Bandits 123-93 (133880014)

RS Round 4: Friday, April 18th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Elan Demars 113-118 (133879909)
RS Round 5: Monday, April 21st, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Trouville BBC 109-88 (133879867)
RS Round 6: Friday, April 25th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Svätý Jur Snakers 94-113 (133879374)

RS Round 7: Monday, April 28th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Suuret Muinaiset 85-83 (133880121)
RS Round 8: Friday, May 2nd, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Swan River Serpents 132-66 (133879372)
RS Round 9: Monday, May 5th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Wagner College 98-102 (133879373)

RS Round 10: Friday, May 9th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Madrid Chotis 90-88 (133879892)
RS Round 11: Monday, May 12th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Holy City Hoopers 109-94 (133885604)
RS Round 12: Friday, May 16th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Les Gueux du Marais 106-89 (133879876)

RS Round 13: Monday, May 19th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Big Chillers 123-78 (133880099)
RS Round 14: Friday, May 23rd, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Heywood Big Dogs 96-107 (133880004)
RS Round 15: Monday, May 26th, 2025 Rajdersi vs. Lielupes Melnās Sirdis 127-114 (133879883)

PO Round1: Sunday, June 1st, 2025 Rajdersi vs Holy City Hoopers 121-92 (135006559)
PO Round2: Sunday, June 8th, 2025 Rajdersi vs Heywood Big Dogs 78-94 (135013891)


Last edited by Paul George at 6/10/2025 3:35:31 AM

From: Wagner

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326590.69 in reply to 326590.65
Date: 3/31/2025 7:27:23 AM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
189189
Probably a mistake at my end, perhaps not reading the adjustment time
Properly - maybe daylight savings was a factor, maybe I just stuffed it up. Not sure.
Which games do you need changed?

I'll take a closer look at this issue (and then check out other schedules of other teams too to see if there are strange occurrences) after finishing the team eligibility check (players).
But at the moment it seems to me that challenges you have received have been on the right time, 3.30PM EET (Daylight Savings Time, it just changed today in EU, so it's same as 2.30PM EET Normal time/winter time, the official HGL match time.) So yes, at a first glance it looks like you might have used wrong time for those other 8 sent challenges, but we'll have to take closer look at this. It's certainly not 1 hour off, but rather 3-4.

However, only 2 of challenges sent by you seem to take place at 3.30PM EET, Rounds 10 and 15 (which would then be correct, official HGL match time).
For other matches, technically how all matches will start also depend on whether you live in northeast or southeast Australia (other part uses DST while other doesn't), and Australia does exact the opposite than EU what it becomes to DST, they move backwards 1 hour instead of 1 hour forward that we do here in Europe. So what we have here is most challenging possible situation (multiple countries, some utilizing DST differently than others, and some not at all, and also this match organizing period is partly overlapped by changes of DST in some countries).

Of course if you could recall whether or not you used correct time (22.30PM your local time) on those two challenges, round 10 and 15, would help to send other challenges on correct times as well.
My current thought is that all times that show up as 12.30PM in schedule (and Elan Demars, please do not accept that 11.30 challenge just yet) would need to be resent. Luckily that's not quite all challenges you sent, only on rd2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9(ED), 11 and 12 if I checked it out correctly.

Which time you'll use in resending - I'll get back to you about that. If you can recall for sure that you used your team's designated time, 22.30PM local time, in those rd 10 and rd 15 challenges by you (seem to start 3.30PM EET DST, which is correct), then that's likely the correct time for re-sent challenges.
I will also have to take a look at other teams schedule to see if there's something wrong (other than possibly 1 hour off-situations).
Let's be in touch about this issue soon...

From: Deano25

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326590.71 in reply to 326590.69
Date: 3/31/2025 3:25:41 PM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
180180
Second Team:
Heywood Lions
I did send my games in two blocks, so maybe I’d worked it out the second time.
Like I said, I’m not sure how I made the error.

From: Deano25

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Date: 3/31/2025 3:25:42 PM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
180180
Second Team:
Heywood Lions
I did send my games in two blocks, so maybe I’d worked it out the second time.
Like I said, I’m not sure how I made the error.

From: Wagner

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326590.73 in reply to 326590.72
Date: 4/1/2025 6:32:58 AM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
189189
I did send my games in two blocks, so maybe I’d worked it out the second time.
Like I said, I’m not sure how I made the error.

That's right, you mentioned about not being sure about that... Well, we'll look at this closer slightly later. (As I mentioned being my initial thought, likely you'd be better off using your designated time when organizing matches - at least I've tried hard to make that to be the correct one). It definitely could be the explaining factor that you did it in two blocks, it makes errors more probable (nothing wrong in doing things in two or more sessions, but that could be explaining factor here).

But I think I first need to run this players eligibility check completely (so that I can send questions and or requests to sell/fire players, if needed) before giving 'final instructions' in terms of organizing time - sometimes it's beneficial to let some thought do it's work in background/in subconscious mind. And while this is not the perfect example of such situation, like I mentioned, let's see if that changes the initial thought and I'll get back to you quite soon.

From: Wagner

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326590.74 in reply to 326590.70
Date: 4/1/2025 6:52:29 AM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
189189
Thanks for sending invites Gccsteel! I accepted your challenge, and will update this post (326590.41) a bit later. If my memory serves me, now all matches have been organized (except for ED vs. HBD for instance, and other possible rescheduled ones due to wrong match time).

We are, however, still waiting for season box score posts from Trouville BBC and Lielupes Melnas Sirdis.

I haven't done time checks to any other schedules than Deano25's and Gccsteel's (in this case I noticed 1 time off by one hour, which falls into an acceptable range in this case and likely requires no further action), so in order to save time you who have sent box score posts may check schedules yourself too. I will check them too bit later, but in order to get first to work with possible problematic schedules, it is beneficial if you report them here on this thread yourself.

From: Wagner

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326590.75 in reply to 326590.72
Date: 4/3/2025 9:10:31 AM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
189189
So, a bit of an update where we are at the moment. I'll publish this same post on both official HGL threads due to it being essential.

What's new:
1. Roster check finished yesterday. If nobody has intentionally become non-HG team after yesterday, all teams will be HGL eligible at April 7th when Season 1 starts (as players from Swan River Serpents and Rajdersi will get sold before that)!
2. Season 1 schedule check finished. Found few problems (mentioned below, check them out), but I will let all matches that are off maximum of 1 hour from the correct/designated HGL match time be as they are, so in those occasions no further actions are required.

EDIT: many of issues already corrected by 5.4.2025 at 18.00EET, but condensed and most updated list of things to do is found from here: (326589.68).

What is still required from some managers:

1. @Chucarro and @Moneta: send box score posts to official HGL Scores Thread (BBMail sent to you both).
2. @Deano25: you need to re-schedule 6 matches in your HGL schedule that start at 12.30 EET DST.
Matches that are starting 15.30 EET DST (Eastern European Time, Daylight Savings Time) on your schedule, in other words those matches starting 3 hours later than your problematic matches, are scheduled to start at correct times.
I have written about this in official scores-thread, for instance in this post: (326589.44). As mentioned, if you are unsure about that correct time, you can re-arrange one match of your choice (out of those problematic 6), then send me BBMail or post on official thread and I'll see how it appears in your schedule.
However, you have few correct times on matches in where you've been responsible for sending challenge, and as your official designated HGL match time is 10.30PM local time, I suspect that you've used that in your correctly timed challenges.
3. @Deano25: You have wrong opponents in your box score posts for rounds 9 (should be ED) and round 10 (should be TRO). For Round 11 against Svätý Jur Snakers, you need to change your match link; replace it with a box score link already provided by Hadar in his schedule, as that match is played at correct time. So please also correct both of these.
4. @all managers that have problematic starting time (12.30PM EET DST) with Heywood Big Dogs (Deano25), you need to correct your links on your box score post after Deano25 has sent you new challenge on correct time and you have accepted it
5. Wagner needs to provide the rest of rules and penalties before Season 1 starts. (Sounds like a daunting task - luckily I'm not Wagner.... oh, wait.. ;P ;) Having said that, I might reserve the right to add some detail to the full rule package during Season 1, in the case they wouldn't change important things significantly. The amount of preliminary work has caught me off guard, so I have not had time to concentrate on rules/penalties at all lately.
6. Not urgent or absolutely necessary, but in order to make it easier for me it would be ideal to stick within certain frame when writing box score posts. In this case I've so far noticed couple of things: Deano25 could perhaps use European format (day/month/year) and Gccsteel could add a year to his listing after each match.

Matches that need to be organized and changed:
1. Some of Deano25's matches (6 matches that start at 12.30PM EET DST), as you all can see from official schedule it's officially Deano's responsibility to send all those challenges. (Like mentioned, it doesn't matter if their opponent wants to organize those matches (if Deano25 would be low on tokens), as long as they are played in correct time.
Problematic matches seem to be at
-Round 2 vs. LGM
-R3 vs. BIG
-R6 vs. SED
-R7 vs. WMO
-R8 vs. BUC
-R9 (wrong opponent in schedule; in ED's schedule wrong match time; 12.30)
-R10 (wrong opponent in schedule)
-R11 vs. HAD (only problematic link in Deano25's schedule - Deano: change link)
-R12 vs. SUM

Last edited by Wagner at 4/5/2025 12:37:07 PM

From: Deano25

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326590.76 in reply to 326590.75
Date: 4/3/2025 9:45:09 AM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
180180
Second Team:
Heywood Lions
If the round one game for me is the right time than it is 11:30pm my local time. If I just match my requests to that, we should be right, yes?
I'll get onto that now.

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