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From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.642 in reply to 324689.634
Date: 3/23/2025 10:22:45 AM
Wagner College
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Great. thanks for that, Wagner.

So, teams can simply look at the time you have placed in brackets next to their name and make sure every game they schedule is at that time. Easy.

I edited my information posts, and added "Very important:-note to the beginning which addresses the match time "issue" (it's really not an issue, but as a non-native English speaker I'm sometimes not finding the perfect words).

As a practical example, this is how a challenge sent to me by MrJ looked like in my schedule:

2 Wagner College Swan River Serpents
(puolueeton kenttä) 28.4.2025 14.30.00


Number two is about the number of the challenge on the list (I had one other on the list already), and (puolueeton kenttä) means neutral court.

Like you can see, MrJ used 08.30PM when sending me a match invitation/challenge, but on my end it appears as 14.30, or 02.30PM just like it is supposed to be.

Like MrJ noted, it is very important to take into account, that BB uses 24 hour clock. Check out MrJ's post, just above: (324689.638)



Last edited by Wagner at 3/23/2025 10:25:29 AM

From: MrJ

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324689.643 in reply to 324689.642
Date: 3/23/2025 10:26:38 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Great. thanks for that, Wagner.

So, teams can simply look at the time you have placed in brackets next to their name and make sure every game they schedule is at that time. Easy.

I edited my information posts, and added "Very important:-note to the beginning which addresses the match time "issue" (it's really not an issue, but as a non-native English speaker I'm sometimes not finding the perfect words).

As a practical example, this is how a challenge sent to me by MrJ looked like in my schedule:

2 Wagner College Swan River Serpents
(puolueeton kenttä) 28.4.2025 14.30.00


Number two is about the number of the challenge on the list (I had one other on the list already), and (puolueeton kenttä) means neutral court.

Like you can see, MrJ used 08.30PM when sending me a match invitation/challenge, but on my end it appears as 14.30, or 02.30PM just like it is supposed to be.

Like MrJ noted, it is very important to take into account, that BB uses 24 hour clock. Check out MrJ's post, just above...




Mmm...you've got me thinking, Wagner.

The PU invite from T-Lit showed 7:30pm. So, maybe he did do it correctly but we got the GM wrong? Afterall, you are saying that it should show 'our local time' in the invite? For me, that is 8:30pm. T-Lit's showed 7:30pm.

???

Home-Grown! For those who like a real challenge, visit the Home Grown Kings Federation (327366.1)
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From: T-Lit
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324689.645 in reply to 324689.641
Date: 3/23/2025 10:33:07 AM
Buckner Bandits
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I followed the instructions set out by wagner. not sure why yours sais 7:30 pm... maybe that the time on your end...

please do not withdraw, i do not want to have to go and redo all these... 1 hour difference is not a big deal.



Last edited by T-Lit at 3/23/2025 10:35:10 AM

From: MrJ

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324689.646 in reply to 324689.645
Date: 3/23/2025 10:37:12 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
I followed the instructions set out by wagner. not sure why yours sais 7:30 pm... maybe that the time on your end...

please do not withdraw, i do not want to have to go and redo all these... 1 hour difference is not a big deal.




That is strange. You clearly set them at the time Wagner noted...so why are they showing 7:30pm?

Anyway, I agree. I won't withdraw.

Home-Grown! For those who like a real challenge, visit the Home Grown Kings Federation (327366.1)
From: MrJ

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324689.647 in reply to 324689.645
Date: 3/23/2025 10:42:48 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Actually, I think it is correct!

Can anyone fault my thinking here please:

So, I am +6 on Wagner's 2:30pm = 8:30pm (my time).
T-Lit is -7 on Wagner's 2:30pm = 7:30am (T-Lit's time)

So, T-Lit's -7 plus my +6 = 13 hours difference. Therefore, 13 hours difference between T-Lit's time and my time.
He issues it at 7:30am, and then if we add 13 hours, this equals 8:30pm (my time) :-)

Mind you, it doesn't explain why it showed up as 7:30pm for me.

Last edited by MrJ at 3/23/2025 10:43:23 AM

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From: T-Lit

To: MrJ
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324689.648 in reply to 324689.647
Date: 3/23/2025 10:44:58 AM
Buckner Bandits
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I am sure daylight savings has some issues with it... US time is wacky.

Its fine, as long as we are close, there shouldnt be an issue. Lets not change things now. :-)

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.649 in reply to 324689.644
Date: 3/23/2025 10:57:24 AM
Wagner College
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MrJ:
Gccsteel sent me an invite and it correctly showed 8:30pm and correct date/neutral...so I accepted and it now appears in my schedule.

MrJ:

Mmm...you've got me thinking, Wagner.

The PU invite from T-Lit showed 7:30pm. So, maybe he did do it correctly but we got the GM wrong? Afterall, you are saying that it should show 'our local time' in the invite? For me, that is 8:30pm. T-Lit's showed 7:30pm.

???

So this is exactly what amazes me, as I asked people which time zone they are located. Gccsteel mentioned UTC-5, and T-Lit "ET" (and while I can't recall if he confirmed Eastern Time is -5, it is to my knowledge).
Therefore, this makes absolutely 0 sense, if Gccsteels' match show to take place at 8.30PM your time (MrJ).
I don't understand why there would be any difference with teams located on the same time zone. So again, it does show up to you MrJ as starting 7.30PM?


MrJ:
We got the GM time wrong which is why it came through to me as 7:30pm instead of 8:30pm?

Can we check his GM time?

Sorry, but what again was this GM time, as I'm not familiar with this term?

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.650 in reply to 324689.647
Date: 3/23/2025 11:07:46 AM
Wagner College
II.2
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Actually, I think it is correct!

Can anyone fault my thinking here please:

So, I am +6 on Wagner's 2:30pm = 8:30pm (my time).
T-Lit is -7 on Wagner's 2:30pm = 7:30am (T-Lit's time)

So, T-Lit's -7 plus my +6 = 13 hours difference. Therefore, 13 hours difference between T-Lit's time and my time.
He issues it at 7:30am, and then if we add 13 hours, this equals 8:30pm (my time) :-)

Mind you, it doesn't explain why it showed up as 7:30pm for me. :/

Yes, the first part is correct, 13 hours.
The latter, as you mentioned, not so much.
I wonder if it's a thing with Daylight Savings Time, as T-lit mentioned. For me for instance official BB league matches show up as starting 15.30, 3.30PM now for a while, before we again start utilizing DST in Finland, and then for the half year or so show to be starting at 4.30PM.
However, it doesn't explain why Gccsteel's challenge shows being played at 8.30PM, and T-Lits' at 7.30PM. Any theories/solutions? Others might be affected too.

Only explanation of some sort I might come up with, is that if BB has some kind of automatic, IP based location finder in use, and it sees that one is not in his typical "home location", and changes match times to reflect that. It's a far fetched theory, but only I could come up with right now (that even might explain differences between T-Lit and Gccsteel, if either of them is not currently located at time zone GMT/UTC-5).

Last edited by Wagner at 3/23/2025 12:07:06 PM

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.651 in reply to 324689.640
Date: 3/23/2025 11:56:54 AM
Wagner College
II.2
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191191

I have also sent all my PU invites except for Round 15...

...as T-Lit discovered, it doesn't let us do it that far ahead. It seems that the Round 15 games can be sent sometime next weel.

Same goes for me, all challenges have now been sent (that I'm responsible of) for the regular season, except for the last round, Round 15. This is surely the only downside of being well ahead of time in this match organizing process - and if this is the worst consequence we'll face, I guess we'll live. ;)

From: Chucarro

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324689.652 in reply to 324689.648
Date: 3/23/2025 11:15:48 PM
Club Trouville
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sorry T-Lit, i reject your Match because of the time before i see this message.
can you send the invitation again?


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