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From: Hadár

To: MrJ
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327516.21 in reply to 327516.20
Date: 7/1/2025 12:20:18 PM
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No worries, Wagner.

If he can't do it, then I'm happy to replace SED.

Wait as long as you need...I'm not going anywhere


Nice :)

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 7/1/2025 8:00:15 PM
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No worries, Wagner.

If he can't do it, then I'm happy to replace SED.

Wait as long as you need...I'm not going anywhere B)

Thank you. I sent you BBMail. :)

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/2/2025 7:46:10 PM
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No worries, Wagner.

If he can't do it, then I'm happy to replace SED.

Wait as long as you need...I'm not going anywhere B)


Good news after withdrawal news, meaning that I'm happy to welcome Freccia Azzurra from Italy to HGL Season 2!

With his Top8 player salaries of $213K, manager ned will surely do all he can to bring FRE to playoffs on his first ever HGL season - and with that, we're also being able to add one more country with more than 1 participant.
So maybe in couple of seasons someone will even be creating a series of league tables of local rivalries (taking into account only matches between those teams on each small "rivalry league table").

Anyway, as we got our 16th team confirmed, we're now ready to proceed organizing matches with Freccia Azzurra (team abbreviation FRE in schedule), as I just updated the schedule (replaced SED with FRE on all 15 Regular Season Rounds).

Also as a reminder, you can now also organize the final match of the Regular Season if you haven't yet done so, as that wasn't still possible when we started the process (as PU match invites can only be sent 2 calendar months ahead).

Last edited by Wagner at 7/2/2025 7:51:27 PM

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/2/2025 7:55:44 PM
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@ Buckner Bandits/T-Lit, and possibly also to others whose pre-season work for Season 2 isn't close to being finished (including making your own box score post for Season 2, which needs to be published and filled well before Season 2 startsso that I can verify all matches prior to S2 beginning):

T-Lit, due to not reaching you by BBMail, I'll also send message on official threads, because if we don't act soon, we'll be pressed in time to get Season 2 started on time.

So, match organizing process for HGL Season 2 is in progress, so please proceed with sending PU match invitations and accept correct match requests made to you, thank you.

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/4/2025 2:00:53 PM
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Reminders sent by BBMail to all that still haven't sent their season 2 box score posts to Scores Thread.

Also sent another reminder to T-Lit (who hasn't been logged in though after 2nd of July).

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/6/2025 7:42:37 AM
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Also sent another reminder to T-Lit (who hasn't been logged in though after 2nd of July).

Still the same situation with T-Lit/Buckner Bandits, no logins since 2nd July.

However. like mentioned earlier, he has logged in several times before that after receiving multiple BBMails from me and contacts/questions on official threads from me, so he had plenty of opportunities to answer my (or many of yours BBMails/possibly discord messages, if you've sent any) contact attempts, and/or accept and send match offers for Season 2.

Buckner Bandits has only very little time to respond, before we need to proceed by excluding him from Season 2.

Even if he would show up at the last minute (likely "during Sunday EET time" might be the suitable ultimate limit)
, this is a good situation to use as an example. I have absolutely zero intention to try to shame anyone by saying this, but as this sort of things are causing extra work that is really essentially totally wasted time that could've used for essential tasks (and for RL things), I ask every participating manager to not do these kind of things (withdraw from league by ghosting/quitting keeping in touch and not doing their HGL routines during season and pre-season).

As said it always causes more work, and not just to me (although most to me of course) but to all managers who can't organize their matches as soon as expected, and need to remember to do that on time, which eventually leads to the situation where I have to worry about that if they have actually remembered to do that and if not, send reminders, etc. before we can even proceed to the phase where I can start verifying the whole schedule.

Sure, I understand 100% that people can get busy, that's life.
But when you play in such manually organized league (HGL), I think it's reasonable to expect managers to understand and remember (that's also mentioned in HGL rules/guide) there is going to be some amount of official contacts on official threads and possibly by BBMail, and response to those contacts is mandatory in some occassions.
But this isn´t decisive problem with BUC, I mean if he would've just done all things that he's supposed to do and not respond to my contacts, I would've accepted it this time and he could continue normally to Season 2 (but as we know, that hasn't been the case). Having said that, that certainly not something anyone should do though (quit being in contact with league Commissioner). Just as an example, basically no one of us could know if he would've only forgot to respond or had very hectic time in his life, or didn't want to use 12 tokens for S2, etc., but we couldn't ever know without communication.

And we won't change the whole league schedule now due to one team not willing to follow the procedures and need to secure our off-season timetable (we have 8 days until Season 2 starts and whole round of matches to be organized!).

So what can we take out of this? Please set reminders/alarms to yourself to the critical phases of the season, so that you remember to check official thread and your BBmail.

As a positive note and as a positive example, WiMaOlCa did this well this season, considering the situation: He knew it's going to be very hard for him to be well available during the match organization process, so he let me (and us) know on official thread about that. He is, however, taking time to organize matches, and while he hasn't had enough time to create box score post, he has also let me know about the situation and kept in contact (while being busy) and will release his box score post also as soon as possible (of which he has already given me a rough estimation).

Staying in regular contact, letting each other know of things in advance if possible, and negotiating if necessary, are the keys here, just as in so many things in life.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/6/2025 8:00:26 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/6/2025 7:49:32 AM
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@all Season 1 and Season 2 HGL managers:
Has anyone seen Buckner Bandits/T-Lit on discord after 2nd of July (that's his last login to BB), and/or contacted him there? I don't use discord, so I can't do that.

I´ve heard that at least Hadár and MrJ have (in addition to me) tried to contact him, and if my memory serves me, maybe also some other manager(s?) have sent him BBMail (due to match organization process not progressing on his part).

Last edited by Wagner at 7/6/2025 8:14:36 AM

From: Hadár

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Date: 7/6/2025 2:25:55 PM
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He probably has more important things to do. He should be replaced, but it's already being done at the last minute.

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/6/2025 3:47:11 PM
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He probably has more important things to do. He should be replaced, but it's already being done at the last minute.

I agree that we can't wait for much longer, as we don't have any information on whether or not he´d return. Just as you said, I also agree that I´ve actually been rather too patient than too strict with this situation, so it's better to proceed now.

@T-Lit Unfortunately due to lack of your willingness to communicate/respond to messages and do the necessary pre-season chores within a necessary time frame, I unfortunately have no choice but to exclude your team Buckner Bandits from HGL Season 2, or we won't be able to finish pre-season match organizing and confirmation process in time.
It is necessary to keep communicating to some extent, especially as you were committed to Season 2 (which can be seen from my post that keeps a list of interested and participating teams), and make sure you'll get certain things such as match organization process done in time, and unfortunately neither of these were accomplished by your team.


@everyone else:
So as everyone who has reading these knows, Buckner Bandits will be replaced by Swan River Serpents (SRS) that we all S1 managers know as an initial HGL team, with MrJ at their lead.

I want to see all Regular Season matches organized before season starts on Monday 14th July, and because SRS doesn't have tokens, he can not organize 12 matches as BUC was supposed to.

Important:

In practice this means following, and here's what everyone should know and do:


1. Swan River Serpents (SRS) is officially joined for Season 2 of HGL, and Buckner Bandits are not playing on Season 2

2. Eventually I will replace BUC in schedule with SRS (Swan River Serpents). I don't have time to do that right now, but everyone can proceed with match organizing process by sending challenge to Swan River Serpents.

3. Everybody will play against SRS on the same Round of play, when they were supposed to play against BUC, so when it says 'BUC' as your opponent on your Season 2 schedule, that's the day you use to challenge SRS (Swan River Serpents)

4. Note: Every HGL manager must send match challenge to SRS - he does not send any challenges on Season 2!
So please send me BBMail as soon as possible, if you have 0 tokens and can´t challenge SRS.

5. Easiest way to find the day you play against SRS on Season 2, is check out these posts:
Rounds 1-3: (327517.5)
Rounds 4-15: (327517.6)

6. You will find Swan River Serpents (SRS) team page (for easy PU match challenge sending) here: (197075).

So everyone participating on Season 2, please start sending SRS match challenges on correct days and times (same times than what you used earlier on the match organization process, nothing changes).

From: MrJ

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Date: 7/6/2025 9:35:38 PM
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Well, thanks for getting this organised, Wagner.

Firstly, I hope T-Lit is all good and it is just RL stuff (have said as much in bbmails to him) and that we see him back here in the forums and HGL soon! Probably just really enjoying his 4th of July!

To everybody playing in the HGL Season 2:

I apologise for not having enough tokens. In my defense, I wasn't playing in this upcoming season. This is why I spent all I had in tactic testing and with other managers, and why I won't have many this season either. However, I will aim to have at least 15 tokens for Season 3 and I'm happy to challenge everyone in that season to make up for it.

Okay, to the business at hand. Like I said, I wasn't planning on playing this season and you will all likely beat up my boys yet again But that's okay, my time will come.

I have posted my game schedule. I have already received 2 invites and have accepted the one from Wagner initially to ensure the game times are still correct. (I'm also secretly holding out---for 1 more hour---in case T-Lit responds and is ready)

If you haven't sent me an invitation yet, please check Wagner's posts and do so as soon as you can. Thank you.

Oh, and it's great to be back in the HGL so soon!


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From: MrJ
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Date: 7/7/2025 12:15:08 AM
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Second Team:
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By the way, I have created a thread to store HGL Achievements. Hope you don't mind, Commissioner.
Thread is found here: (327663.1). Let me know if you want it to show something different? Different format? Additional info?

It also includes a Season 68 Wrap-Up of how all the HGL teams have gone in their respective leagues and countries this Season. I included the 5 new HGL teams, too.

I created it as the HGL threads have so much info everywhere relating to the HGL specifically. I really want to showcase the HG Community and our achievements. Hence the new thread.

I would love for all HG teams to promote their successes. It could be League Championships, CUP Championships, BBM Championships, U21 NT Selections, NT Selections...
(IF any of you have Championships that you have won over the seasons as a 100% HG Team, please go to the above thread and let me know and I will update them).

Anything. The more we promote our community, perhaps the larger it will become.


Last edited by MrJ at 7/7/2025 12:33:16 AM

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