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From: Big Money

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240994.10 in reply to 240994.2
Date: 4/25/2013 10:28:17 PM
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Manon referenced an idea that I brought up a couple of months ago in a thread that I started. My idea was to have a 5 man training system. 2 players would be good at outside shooting and inside defense, the next 2 would be good at outside defense and inside shooting, the last one would be good at all of the four things. The biggest reason I would do this is to lower salary. I thought it through some more and decided it was a bad idea. Here are a few reasons: training is slow due to no elastic effect, too hard to find players on the transfer list that fit, too risky that the idea doesn't pan out. My advice is don't do it.

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240994.11 in reply to 240994.10
Date: 4/26/2013 3:21:57 AM
Surry Hills Peeps
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What about a team of LeBron's, SF that were about 6.6 ish and 10 deep? Some leaning towards inside some leaning towards outside. No absolute guns, but deep. Who cares if fouls are high... You go 10 deep.

Would be an interesting proposition. Might be able to source at least half the squad from transfer list if not more, then top up skills. Just a thought.

From: Hunterz

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240994.12 in reply to 240994.11
Date: 4/26/2013 4:00:03 AM
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Awesome idea!

LeBron builds (or well build forwards in general) are widely available and are even salary efficient. Couple that with the super cheap going rate for picking up these player types on the TL and you got straight domination thats easy on the finances.

We all should have gotten out of the box seasons ago!

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240994.13 in reply to 240994.11
Date: 4/26/2013 8:08:55 AM
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The biggest problem is that SF training is so slow that you don't end up with a team full of LeBron's, you end up with a team full of Shane Battier's and Hedo Turkoglu's. At least at the highest level's that's what would happen.

Back to the OP though, another problem with that strategy is that you really can't train more than 2 players effectively. Once you train more than 2 you're almost certainly not giving at least 1 player or even the entire group a full compliment of weekly training. Add the part where you want to train half of them with inside skills and the other half with outside skills and you've cut the training speed even further. So you're going to end up with a bunch of guys that cap out in the $10,000 to $25,000 salary range and you would only be able to compete in the lower divisions with that roster.

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240994.14 in reply to 240994.13
Date: 4/26/2013 12:11:45 PM
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Assuming the owner were able to assemble a roster capable of doing what he's seeking, what offense would take advantage of that skill variety?

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240994.15 in reply to 240994.14
Date: 4/26/2013 2:23:49 PM
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I think that's the biggest problem, there might not be a BB offense that properly fits the lineup he's describing.

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240994.17 in reply to 240994.1
Date: 4/26/2013 3:19:57 PM
The Brick Squad
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Your idea sounds pretty good and that's one of the reasons we/I love BB:
You can experiment and create various Combo-players and might even succeed!

If you had such a roster, you would definetly exploit your adversary in the usual matchup. However, the game also adjust to your players:
Suppose you have monster-inside-guards and monster-outside-big guys. You won't be able to maximize their main skills for their respective positions ( C would have high JS/JR skills at the expense of IS/ID and the guards the opposite)
If your guards start to make too many buckets under the basket, your adversary will focus more on your guards by double defense or the opponents big guy will start to take over under the rim.
The same goes also for your big guys. As they start to make their shots from the distance, the guards will help out more(higher OD) and you'll start missing.

You could dominate the first quarters, but later you'll experience too many mismatch situations in the offense and eventually lose the game.
Unless your opponent players suck at defense or the defensive tactic proves to be a wrong one.

It sounds maybe a bit harsh ,but your plan still sounds great ;) Multifunctional players make this game interesting and you'll win many games with such an roster.
I wonder if Princeton could be a great offensive game for such a team?

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240994.18 in reply to 240994.17
Date: 4/26/2013 4:50:22 PM
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I wonder if Princeton could be a great offensive game for such a team?


I know a guy that runs a Princeton offense regularly (30851). I have asked him what it takes to run Princeton, and he told me that JS/JR/HA/DR/PA is need on everyone. I also asked another guy, and he told me that for Princeton to work at its best, you need to be "allergic to anything over 6 IS." I'll assume this is for the guards and SFs. For bigs, you do need a bit of an inside game, but also higher than average secondaries.

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240994.19 in reply to 240994.1
Date: 4/29/2013 7:45:59 PM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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I like out of the box thinking as well and also came up with something like this, only for defense instead of offense, to keep salary low and switch players defensively. Of course the downside is slower training, harder to find players to buy to complement your team, but if you truly believe in your idea and you've thought it out well, and you actually enjoy experimenting, you should do it of course. There's very few managers that have actually tried stuff like this thoroughly I think, so most people that advice not to do it probably don't have real experience with it. I'm not saying I have, but you play the game for fun and if this is how you get more fun, why not?

But yeah, disclaimer is that it takes a lot of time and if it doesn't pan out you could have "wasted" that time. If you enjoyed doing it, you probably learn a lot from it too so don't be too hesitant to try :)

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240994.20 in reply to 240994.19
Date: 4/30/2013 10:08:01 PM
Surry Hills Peeps
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+1 Sir!

This was more my point, Defense, I think if you could stifle the opposing team with your D and had fairly balanced Offense with a spike in different players I think it would be very interesting.

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