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280925.1
Date: 8/12/2016 6:26:34 AM
A WildCats
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which is better to train to get shots for any positions, Jump shot or driving?
let me know the reason, as well.

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280925.2 in reply to 280925.1
Date: 8/15/2016 3:53:22 AM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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If you look at a player in a vacuum, you will need both. With just Jumpshot, he'll be great at shooting but he will take bad shots because he can't create good looks because of low driving. With just driving, he'll be great at creating shots but won't be able to hit them consistently.

But, since basketball is a team sport and he'll never play 1 on 1 in a game, you need to factor in your team. If you have other players that have great driving/passing, he can get open looks from them and won't need to create his own shot as much. If you train passing and handling on your player, he won't need his Jumpshot as much as he can drive and pass to a teammate who can score.

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280925.3 in reply to 280925.2
Date: 8/16/2016 3:57:34 AM
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hmmm, it's confusing. let me ask in another way.
what's the best way to train PG player? Does he need driving? I thought at first that JS and PA training train HA and DV a bit, and that't enough to train as a PG player. Does he still need DV and HA training as well as PA, JS, and OD?

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280925.5 in reply to 280925.3
Date: 8/16/2016 6:32:31 AM
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If you ask me, yes I want a PG with good driving, I like it over JS. I therefore also prefer training 1vs1 over jumpshot for PG's.

In my eyes, a PG needs at least OD, HA and DR. Then, he also needs a balance of PA, JS, JR and IS to your liking. He doesn't need all 4 of them to be high, but their total must be good. I want this for all my players, and the PG probably has more PA but the total needs to be in balance. This way, I believe a player will always have a good option in any situation, to either make a good pass or be able to score.

So I would train 1v1 to increase driving, as it also trains HA, JS and if you train forwards it also trains IS. 1v1 and PA usually gives you enough HA so you don't need to train it seperately. 1v1, JR and IS usually train JS enough so you don't need to train it seperately either. You always need OD.

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280925.7 in reply to 280925.6
Date: 8/16/2016 3:03:24 PM
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I think in DV as the ability to create shots, either for themselves or for other. After you create this show it comes the JS/PA. PA I think it works as a BB IQ. If a player have a high PA he tends to have a higher FG%. So in game play I can things working like this: Player creates offense (DV) and then he's able to recognize (PA) if its better to pass to someone with better chance of scoring or to go to the basket by themself (JS/JR)

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280925.8 in reply to 280925.7
Date: 8/17/2016 6:58:29 PM
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Game Manual says: "Allows the player to create his own shot without a good pass from a teammate." I don't think it has anything to do with creating opportunities for other players. I do believe that a HA helps PA create scoring opportunities for teammates.

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280925.9 in reply to 280925.8
Date: 8/17/2016 7:54:33 PM
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I read this a poor translation of the skill. For me it would be like "the ability to break the defense" or something like that. Of course I may be wrong, and probably am. Also, I do think it´s a secondary effect. Compare players with similars JS/JR/DR/IS but different PA. The one with higher PA will probably have a higher FG%.

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280925.10 in reply to 280925.5
Date: 8/18/2016 10:56:28 AM
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sorry for the delay response.
I have been thinking how to train PG with your advice, looking at this

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=144856&m=22

and this

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=144856&m=34

while I still prefer JS for a PG, I'm gonna include 1 on 1, JR, and a little IS in my PG training plan.

all in all, almost every skill is required to be a great player...hahaha.


Last edited by WildCats at 8/18/2016 11:07:38 AM

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280925.11 in reply to 280925.4
Date: 8/18/2016 11:16:13 AM
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sorry for the delay response.
JS/JR and DV/IS are combined skills?
How much helpful is HA to score?