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Does it cost the same to build seats in IV as it does in V?

In other words, should I rush to build now before I promote?

I knew I would need a bigger arena once I moved up, but I've not been selling out until the last three home games, so I was in no rush to do it before.

seats always cost the same, regardless of league.. but remember, they take time to build, so if you do it now they are ready for the start of next season...

you have the cash to do it, so why not... the quicker you do it, the quicker you can start getting a return on your investment.. The money in your account doesnt accrue interest, so i would say it is costing you money by not investing now.

Again, i suggest, do 500 bleachers at a time... by the time the new season rolls around, you will have 1000-1500 new seats which will be worth an extra $9000-$13,500 per home game at your current prices, then focus on some lower tier. take a look around some US div 4 leagues and check out there arenas, and try to model on that.. also check their prices and copy those.. i think ur prices are to low.

here is how mine finances compared with league average. I think you can expect huge proffit too if u keep winning atleast half your games.

Savaitės finansai
Išlaidos Pajamos
Žaidėjų algos: $ 60 292 Lankomumas: $ 125 014
Personalo algos: $ 29 711 Prekių pelnas: $ 24 158
Talentų paieška: $ 10 000 TV kontraktas: $ 66 376
Viso: $ 100 003 Viso: $ 215 548
Savaitės grynasis pelnas: $ 115 545
Paskutinės savaitės lygos vidurkiai
Išlaidos Pajamos
Žaidėjų algos: $ 103 557 Lankomumas: $ 86 346
Personalo algos: $ 37 540 Prekių pelnas: $ 18 821
Talentų paieška: $ 5 000 TV kontraktas: $ 66 376
Viso: $ 146 097 Viso: $ 171 543
Lygos vidutinis pelnas: $ 25 446

Like already noted, there's no change to arena seat pricing in D4. But also, there's no maintenance cost for your arena. So in many respects, it's better to start early with the expansion, so that you can immediately start reaping the benefits.

Also, there's the promotion bonus to attendance, which lasts ~1/2 or slightly more of the season. Now, if you keep winning, it's not a big deal, because you'll keep filling your arena. But it's possible that you'll have consecutive home games during the first intraconference portion of the schedule, and then one less during the second part, at the end of the season. In that case, you'll certainly want to have already expanded your arena. Honestly, if you have 600K already right now, I'd put 300K of that into the arena, with something like 750 bleachers and 200 lower tier. That'll leave you money to pick up some veterans at decent prices after the playoff deadline comes. Next season when you're in D4, you can see how your team is doing, and either pick up some more players if you're stuggling, or plow the rest into the arena.

One suggestion is to check the 'attendance helper' under the 'team tools' after you log into the USA database (bb-usa.host22.com). Entering the number of seats you have (or will build) and switching to D4, you can get a decent idea of the relationship between seat prices and attendance. I'd suggest going a bit over the recommended ideal price, because that doesn't adequately account for the promotion bonus. That will help you reap more revenue from your arena.

Here's our league's average weekly economy stats:

Player Salaries: $ 101 087 Attendance: $ 100 880
Staff Salaries: $ 55 021 Merchandise: $ 19 377
Scouting: $ 7 857 TV Contract: $ 67 151
Total: $ 163 965 Total: $ 187 408
League Average Net Income: $ 23 443

I spent most of the season at ~80K total player salary, and currently I'm leading my conference. But of course you know that salary is not a great metric for determining player performance. But just about all of my players were 7-10K weekly salary. And they were fine. And three of those guys were my main trainees.

If you're set to promote, I'd suggest getting ready to put a good chunk of that cash reserve into your arena. Then, after the playoff eligibility deadline, I would look to pick up some cheap veterans, especially for depth.

Note you'll also receive a 200K promotion bonus when the season turns over. I put my entire bonus into my arena, and and glad I did.

I'll second what Sharkboy said.

Our league averages in IV.41:
League Averages from Last Week
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 118 203 Attendance: $ 120 426
Staff Salaries: $ 44 056 Merchandise: $ 20 230
Scouting: $ 11 250 TV Contract: $ 68 018
Total: $ 173 509 Total: $ 208 674
League Average Net Income: $ 35 165

The part about finding quality veterans after the playoff deadline is advice that is absolutely outstanding. The demand should be much lower at that point and hopefully you will find players that will fit well. I'd encourage trying to get well-rounded players at good salary points rather than monster salary guys with major holes in their game, too. There's a lot of bang for your bucks that way.

You also definitely want to improve the arena, since that's the foundation of your economy.

As you said you had 600k,put 200k for 1k bleacher,140k for 200 lower tier atleast and raise your prices to 11,45,120,1050 so that you can easily tank.

Player Salaries: $ 128 558 Attendance: $ 116 789
Staff Salaries: $ 47 540 Merchandise: $ 21 110
Scouting: $ 6 875 TV Contract: $ 68 964
Total: $ 182 973 Total: $ 206 863

Here are more IV economies.

But you must know what type of D.IV you are going in, some are fairly easy while others are pretty hard.

As my pooster said before, money invested in the arena would be a smart and more succesful move midterm and longterm. Also you should put more attention into it already, your bleacher prices are way to low for your capacities, also you lower tie and court side seats are always sold out with your entrys fee which is an sign that you most likely get more money if you ask for higherprices. So i would raise the entry fee drastically*, in those categorys and also build extra seats.
The price for the luxury box, are ok when you promote if not you could reduce then a bit.

Also a thing i would change are your staff, the level 4 trtainer is imho the cost effective trainer so you did a good job getting him. But for the other i would uprage a bit to get one with a speciality(massage and since you won't be a championshipteam, the extra homecourt bonus from the pr). Maybe even level 3 could make sense, but especially on the PR such discussion are more religious then based on facts.

* orientate at teams witha comparabel situation, maybe you could check out the team who is promoted before you. And if you don't find a match for your team, it is much easier to find the right prices when you start to expensiv since you could makes your estimate on the amount of free seats. Also i think to high prices, don't make you loose so much money then to low ones.