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1) You still failed to explain how come the current teams on ACBB "great 8" conference does not posses a single team newer than those from season-4.

2) The example you gave does not prove anything.
It seems that he made economic desicions several times, and stayed on the lower leagues to gain money and better train his players with not being afraid of the results on the field.
Then he made a run to the first division due to this assets he got.
BUT - he got to this amount of assets because he started early. And still he was not good enough to stay in the first league.
It also proves another thing here is not logic - a team that does not compete developing better than those who did.

This is surely the case, as this manager stayed for several seasons on the lower leagues, and then just got into a rocket that brang him to the upper league.

1) "Great" definitions for why they are bad, and why the current system is competative.

2) I don't need the approval of the teams who plays on the DIV-I leagues, and the ocasional lower league user who does not understand the current status.
I need the BB to be aware of the problems. And that I surely did!

Man, you are really ignorant. Magic: the Gathering is actually much more complex than this game (I'm not talking about code and programming, but game itself - tactics. training etc.) and this is coming from a guy that has been playing it for 10 years. I guess you haven't read the analogy at all because it's not relevant, have you? Only your reasons are relevant and none other. Grow up.

We should start a protest thread if any of Pini's suggestions would be implemented. Kozlik?

I'm sorry, my post wasn't for another discussion (and all the others have already post dozens of good arguments against your ideas). It was mainly my recommendation for you to stop reacting to every message and repeating the same arguments again and again even if nobody supports them. You are trying to crash the wall. So, now I stop responding to any of your messages and I recommend all the other to ignore you as well. It doesn't worth a time to discuss with you.

I'm sorry, my post wasn't for another discussion (and all the others have already post dozens of good arguments against your ideas). It was mainly my recommendation for you to stop reacting to every message and repeating the same arguments again and again even if nobody supports them. You are trying to crash the wall. So, now I stop responding to any of your messages and I recommend all the other to ignore you as well. It doesn't worth a time to discuss with you.

Yes... Sounds reliable...
When I'll get a simple explanation, and not an evasion or excuses, to the fact that both on the Spanish and the German "great 8" at the DIV-I league there is not a single team that had joined later than season-4, your argument "explained all" could have minimum reliability.
Until then... BB (as Bye-Bye...)

Last edited by Pini פיני at 11/9/2011 1:57:25 AM

Please tell us already which concurent game paid you to go and try disrupt buzzerbeater. There is no way you aren't up to something like that.

Please tell us already which concurent game paid you to go and try disrupt buzzerbeater. There is no way you aren't up to something like that.

OK, so now that we know that you don't have an answer to the simple question raised on the message you replied about, you went into accusations... How low can you go???

And just because I answer each question (unlike you for example), I'll say that for destroying the game I would only need to be quiet and to let the uncompetitive system continue take casualties.
I also would not give any suggestion to resolve it. Surely not three.
And I would not bring other suggestions relevant to other issues on the game.

And again, to keep the main point out there;
There is a single question needed to be answered (not evaded or answered using an excuse) - how come there is NOT EVEN ONE team later than season-4 on the "great 8" conference at the DIV-I of the Spanish or the German league?

Last edited by Pini פיני at 11/9/2011 2:45:50 AM

2) Great. Another user from season-3 lecturing me about how the game is so competative, and how is the fact that he is in the first division is regardless to that fact.

fie also that you could have learned some froom it, cause he also mentioned different system before ;)
In the first days, we had first division income, and not the players who compensate the income with their salarys. Nowadays, most top division team don't gain that much money, to compensate the loose in value their player got in aging. Also i don't know a team in germany who plays in the top, and still have reserve from the "old" days.

since the bundesliga is so important we also had lot of 40k arena before they limited it to 20k. Since other strong countrys like italy, was closer to an income equilibrium cause they spend more on players, and had pretty small sized arenas. At least that gave us also a push, and finance reserved we got when we reduced the arena size, where mostly old teams got profit(and in the end we had more income and nearly the same quality then the italian league).

I bring up the problem also in the past, but don't think that we still have it. Even when i think that even a good manager, needs 3-4 season to promote one division and build up a good team for the next one, which is imho a ok duration.