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309376.826 in reply to 309376.825
Date: 9/3/2023 7:09:16 PM
Ovar 76ers
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Sounds funny until you and your community invest in a generation to try and achieve something and all goes to waste because a troll gets elected due to his global ranking. Why would you want 80% of the voters to not give af about the NT? My suggestion was to try and force those voters to be educated on their decision, which necessarily means providing more info and making them read it. But it’s a fair point to just remove the damn exclamation point

Last edited by vid17 at 9/3/2023 7:11:33 PM

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309376.827 in reply to 309376.825
Date: 9/4/2023 1:44:07 AM
Dead Stars
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You're against more people voting? That seems... odd.


In this situation I am against, yes. Just imagine, before this exclamation feature we had about 40 - 50 votes each time, and when it was introduced this number jumped 200+ instantly. And we already have plenty of examples when elections are won by some trolls only because they have higher rank. This time in LTU U21 won a candidate that is banned on forums and didn't even wrote a single word during elections. So looks like those random voters does not even care about speeches and etc.

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309376.828 in reply to 309376.825
Date: 9/4/2023 3:45:36 AM
AS Barroom Heroes
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You're against more people voting? That seems... odd.

It's actually not that odd once you look at unintended consequences. In other words, I don't think the issue is having more or less people vote, it's having more INFORMED people vote.

I don't think it's uncommon to have candidates who show absolutely no involvement in the election process receive bunch of votes (last U21 election in Italy, almost 100 votes for a candidate with no election speech, non participation in the debate, etc.). It probably happened before the red exclamation mark, but I would imagine that it happens even more now.

This isn't to say that the solution is to have less votes, or "hide" the election button. I don't actually have a solution, or even a proposal for a solution, just that there are indeed unwanted consequences to highlighting the election link.

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309376.830 in reply to 309376.829
Date: 9/4/2023 6:06:06 AM
Tampines Fusion
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The problem with this is that there is no way of ensuring that the candidate puts in a serious speech. A simple "vote for me" would even make it. Or even "asdf".

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309376.831 in reply to 309376.829
Date: 9/4/2023 8:13:45 AM
AS Barroom Heroes
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If anybody will ask me I would prefer the need for a speech to be counted as a candidate. No speech, no candidature. An NT coach must be able to speak with users, so a speech is a way to show that he is able. Besides this, he put information about him too.

Perhaps an approach would be to have the candidate put in his speech when he candidates himself?
And lock that information once the election starts?

That way, along with all the information you were referring to, the voter would also see the election speech. Obviously, if the speech is "vote for me" or "sdfgdfgw", it won't look great for his candidacy.

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309376.832 in reply to 309376.831
Date: 9/4/2023 8:54:10 AM
Tampines Fusion
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I don't think anyone would bother reading and judging. I mean, they don't bother to find out more about the candidates now, pretty sure they would still vote for the highest WR player even if that guy said "sdfgdfgw" while other participants write essays.

Honestly I think the best way is to remove the WR, just show the name and flag. Don't know if it's possible but it's even better if the position of candidates are randomized (so as to negate the chances of people just voting the top guy on the list.

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309376.833 in reply to 309376.832
Date: 9/4/2023 9:13:19 AM
BC "EDI"
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The list seems to be random candidates shuffle if you keep refreshing.

And yes, please remove the WR it's close to meaningless

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Date: 9/4/2023 9:58:12 AM
Durham Wasps
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Whatever the solution is, fewer voters isn't it.

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Date: 9/4/2023 1:28:04 PM
Durham Wasps
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Different voting power for different users? Dear me, no. I'd view that with more than distaste. We're all equal.

The idea that people are against other people voting because they're doing it wrong... well, that's kinda slimy.

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