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Wagner, there is a LOT of information posted regarding the HGL.

In regards to setting the correct time for a match, could you please provide a few examples?

For example, if I were to organise a PU with you, what time (my time) should I schedule it for?

My team has +8/+6 (8:30pm) written in the thread. Does this mean that for every game I schedule I should set it for 8:30pm my time?

Perhaps providing a couple of examples for those managers who have not been following closely, or are overwhelmed by the sheer volume of information.

A few brief examples would be beneficial I think.

Yes, your example is correct.
These numbers you mentioned (GMT+8/+6) do show on which time zone team is located, and latter number showing what is the time difference to "official HGL match time". Official match time for all HGL matches is 14.30, or 02.30PM Eastern European Time, EET. (EET standard time is GMT+2).

And as your reference number (with regards to official HGL match start time) is +6, it means matches will start 6 hours later in your local time, than what official match time of 2.30PM suggests.
(If it would be, say, -6, then your matches would start 6 hours earlier than 02.30PM in your local time, which would equal to 08.30AM).

However, when sending match invites, manager can basically ignore these first few numbers (in your example GMT+8/+6), as time for each manager has been assigned separately and readily calculated for them. They will see it in front of their team name.
For example my team it looks like this: GMT+2/0=02.30PM. So from this I can conclude, that I organize all matches starting at 14.30, or on other words at 02.30PM.

So to use your team as an another example, your Official Local Time for HGL matches is 20.30, or 08.30PM. This is the time that you use to schedule all your HGL matches. Why? Because you are 6 hours ahead of Eastern European Time, so when you organize your match starting at 08.30PM, time at EET time zone at that moment will be 14.30, or 02.30PM EET, which is the official start time for all HGL matches.

Now if I would be sending your team a challenge, I would again use a time designated for my team, found from the participating teams-list on official threads.
For me that is 14.30, or 02.30PM EET. When I send you such challenge, then match will start 2.30PM my time, and 08.30PM your time (which again is official local HGL match time for your team).

Example 2:
If some team from East coast USA arranges a match with time zone/personal official match time information being as follows: GMT-5/-7=07.30AM , then they would arrange all their matches so that they start at 07.30AM (important to note: in the morning)!.
It would equal to start time of HGL matches, 2.30PM EET, so all HGL matches in that round are played simultaneously.

(Side note: If Daylight Savings Time, DST, is observed in different countries at different times, this could theoretically cause "a 1 hour off"-kind of situation on some occasions when you have been the team that has accepted the match challenge, but it should only occur on such transitional periods; for instance, time difference between Finland (located on EET time zone) and Eastern USA will "normalize" to 7 hours soon as we also start observing DST on March 30th - US has already moved to using DST earlier).

Due to character limitations of posts, if we/I want to include this example to the official threads, I need to take space from other posts (as the announcement is already full).
Do you think that's necessary? Or did these examples open up the situation any better/enough? Or would you prefer to write some additional examples?


Last edited by Wagner at 3/23/2025 9:16:22 AM

Great. thanks for that, Wagner.

So, teams can simply look at the time you have placed in brackets next to their name and make sure every game they schedule is at that time. Easy.

Last edited by MrJ at 3/23/2025 9:16:15 AM

Great. thanks for that, Wagner.

So, teams can simply look at the time you have placed in brackets next to their name and make sure every game they schedule is at that time. Easy.

That was (and is) the idea. And yes, it should be easy.

Do you think I should link this post above as part of informative post, or preferably create another one on official thread(s) that has above provided example in it?

I already had this bolded text added in the official information post, in order to make it stand out:

For each team an Official Local Time is provided, which they use when sending PU match invitations. Found (before team name), here: (326590.2).
Use only this time given to your team specifically, and nothing else, when organizing Pickup matches!

Last edited by Wagner at 3/23/2025 9:25:04 AM

Great. thanks for that, Wagner.

So, teams can simply look at the time you have placed in brackets next to their name and make sure every game they schedule is at that time. Easy.

That was (and is) the idea. And yes, it should be easy.
Do you think I should link this post above as part of informative post, or preferably create another one on official thread(s) that has above provided example in it?

Yes, it might be helpful. Any managers unsure how to read all the info really just need to know that:

If they are responsible for organising a PU game, they need to schedule it for the time listed (in brackets) on the schedule page.

Got all of my games invites sent except round 15, (the calendar wouldnt let me schedule that far out...)

Good luck everyone! :-)

A word of WARNING to all managers:

Make sure you set the time correctly regarding am/pm.

Remember, the PU GE uses a 24 clock.

EG.

00:35 would be 12:35am
02:30 would be 2:30am
07:30 would be 7:30am
12:00 would be 12:00pm
14:45 would be 2:45pm
20:30 would be 8:30pm


Attention ALL managers: Before you accept a PU invite, check that they have set the correct time here (326590.2)


Last edited by MrJ at 3/23/2025 9:36:07 AM

I have also sent all my PU invites except for Round 15...

...as T-Lit discovered, it doesn't let us do it that far ahead. It seems that the Round 15 games can be sent sometime next weel.

Great. thanks for that, Wagner.

So, teams can simply look at the time you have placed in brackets next to their name and make sure every game they schedule is at that time. Easy.

I edited my information posts, and added "Very important:-note to the beginning which addresses the match time "issue" (it's really not an issue, but as a non-native English speaker I'm sometimes not finding the perfect words).

As a practical example, this is how a challenge sent to me by MrJ looked like in my schedule:

2 Wagner College Swan River Serpents
(puolueeton kenttä) 28.4.2025 14.30.00

Number two is about the number of the challenge on the list (I had one other on the list already), and (puolueeton kenttä) means neutral court.

Like you can see, MrJ used 08.30PM when sending me a match invitation/challenge, but on my end it appears as 14.30, or 02.30PM just like it is supposed to be.

Like MrJ noted, it is very important to take into account, that BB uses 24 hour clock. Check out MrJ's post, just above: (324689.638)



Last edited by Wagner at 3/23/2025 10:25:29 AM

Great. thanks for that, Wagner.

So, teams can simply look at the time you have placed in brackets next to their name and make sure every game they schedule is at that time. Easy.

I edited my information posts, and added "Very important:-note to the beginning which addresses the match time "issue" (it's really not an issue, but as a non-native English speaker I'm sometimes not finding the perfect words).

As a practical example, this is how a challenge sent to me by MrJ looked like in my schedule:

2 Wagner College Swan River Serpents
(puolueeton kenttä) 28.4.2025 14.30.00

Number two is about the number of the challenge on the list (I had one other on the list already), and (puolueeton kenttä) means neutral court.

Like you can see, MrJ used 08.30PM when sending me a match invitation/challenge, but on my end it appears as 14.30, or 02.30PM just like it is supposed to be.

Like MrJ noted, it is very important to take into account, that BB uses 24 hour clock. Check out MrJ's post, just above...

Mmm...you've got me thinking, Wagner.

The PU invite from T-Lit showed 7:30pm. So, maybe he did do it correctly but we got the GM wrong? Afterall, you are saying that it should show 'our local time' in the invite? For me, that is 8:30pm. T-Lit's showed 7:30pm.

???