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From: LennuK.
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Date: 11/4/2025 4:34:11 AM
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We had a discussion of different new statistics on a couple of occasions over the past seasons. I have now made a ranking table of different nations, represented by various number of teams over the first 2 Seasons of HGL.

Rank__Country__NoT_GP__W___L___PF/G___PA/G__PD/G__WLR
1______Slovakia____1___30___29___1___114.5____85.9____+28.6___0.967
2______Argentina___1___15___14___1___117.5____80.9____+36.7___0.933
3______Sweden____1___15___12___3___95.3_____88.2____+7.1____0.800
4______Poland_____1___30___21___9___108.0____97.6____+10.5___0.700
5______France_____3___90___53___37__103.2____95.6____+7.6____0.589
6______Finland_____2___60__35___25___101.6____95.7____+5.9___0.583
7______Italy_______2___30__17___13___86.3_____78.9____+7.4___0.567
8______Bosnia i H.__1___15___8___7____90.3_____85.1____+5.2___0.533
9______Spain______1___30__13___17___91.8_____92.1____-0.4____0.433
10_____Australia___2___45___12___33__84.8_____112.8____-28.0___0.267
11_____Latvia_____1___30___7___23___95.5_____102.8____-7.4____0.233
12_____Uruguay___1___30___7___23___89.8_____102.1____-12.3___0.233
13_____Estonia____1___15___3___12___97.3_____105.6____-8.3____0.200
14_____USA_______3___45___8___37___85.3_____111.5___-26.2___0.178

Bosnia i H.=Bosnia and Herzegovina

NoT=Number of distinct teams, GP=Games played, W=Wins, L=Losses, PF/G=Points scored for per game, PA/G=Points scored against per game, PD/G=Scoring difference per game, WLR=Win-Loss-Ratio

I compiled all the scores from the games of the regular season from seasons 1 and 2 of HGL and calculated a win-loss-ratio, which is the main parameter for ranking. Additionally, I gathered points scored and normalized these to the games played by all teams to have a better comparability between nations with different number of teams playing. The point difference normalized to the number of games (PD/G) is currently the secondary parameter for ranking. Games between teams from the same nation still reflect in the statistics, as they automatically count as 1 win, 1 loss and leave a +/-0 point differential. The nations that did not have an active team during the second season are in an italic font. Let me know what you think and if it's interesting enough to keep track at the end of every season.

And sorry for a crappy looking table, which is the BB text editor's fault

Last edited by LennuK. at 11/4/2025 5:33:14 AM

From: Wagner

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We had a discussion of different new statistics on a couple of occasions over the past seasons. I have now made a ranking table of different nations, represented by various number of teams over the first 2 Seasons of HGL.
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Let me know what you think and if it's interesting enough to keep track at the end of every season.

And sorry for a crappy looking table, which is the BB text editor's fault :D

Excellent work, LennuK. - thank you very much! :)
I personally find these kind of statistics very interesting, and depending on how much work it is for you to update this kind of table every season (I know sometimes these tasks take way more time and effort than what the end result would suggest), I definitely give my vote to keeping on updating it!

It also adds a different aspect to HGL, as with every win, you may better your country's winning record, so you not only fight for wins to your team, but also to your country.

Of course like you mentioned, in the case of countries with multiple HGL teams, matches between same country teams cause a loss for all time records in a match between these teams (from the same country), and the effect is larger the more teams there are from the same country. In other words, it's of course not possible for such countries to achieve 100% winning record, even if they would win all games against every other HGL country. But after all, with countries of 3 HGL teams for instance, there are still "only" 3 matches between them during any given Regular season, so effect isn't huge.

Having said that, when I initially think of it, I think your approach here (how you decided to count matches) is likely the best possible way to handle it, as comparison table then contains all Regular Season matches. Other possibility could be to exclude matches between same country's teams, but it's your call, and as you already worked hard to compile such table, I'm very happy with your work and do not suggest it should be changed. :) So mentioning about this another possible approach was not to say there's something wrong with your choice of matches (that you include in a table).
Again, thanks very much for your contribution, once again!

Last edited by Wagner at 11/6/2025 2:44:57 PM

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/10/2025 6:52:06 AM
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League tables updated again - sorry for delay this time.

I guess couple of HGL overtime records have been broken during last couple of Rounds, in at least few different stats categories (of which it would be nice to keep stats on, in addition to many other stats categories but I don't know if there will be enough time to do that).
I could be obviously mistaken, but has anyone else reached overtime in 2 consecutive HGL matches? If so, I bet they haven't lost both like I did... ;) I guess there has been 2 overtimes for one team if we count the whole Regular Season, as some teams have had many thrillers during one Season?
Like you guys know, OT's aren't being clearly presented in scores-posts, so for that reason it's not easy to tell (and I certainly can't remember that).

From: Wagner

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@all:
Please remember to keep on adding scores of your Seasons' matches to your own box score posts.

Currently 11 out of 16 teams are up to date or at least started filling (and so have currently partly filled) their own box score posts on Season 3...
Meaning that 5 teams still haven't filled any scores on Season 3 matches.

I'm sure you all remember easiest way to find a way to your own box score post is through league table-posts on both Official Threads, or then you can just add a bookmark to that post (once you first find it) to access it even more easier in the future.
Thanks. :)

Last edited by Wagner at 11/10/2025 7:38:10 AM

From: Wagner

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Another league table update available, made available "a bit" quicker this time around!

Again, some interesting scores on Round 7... HB continued their dominance against Northern opponents, (first beating VIV, then SUM, and now beating my team on RS Round 7), VPO and HAD kept their winning records spotless, and KKS was able to make a surprisingly big gap (30 points) to their quality opposition on Round 7, VIV.

TRO did their all to beat EOS in an important fight for a place in Playoffs, but despite of good attempt they fell 16 points short. Endel Karu from EOS simply refused to lose, posting Round 7 high 46 points on the score board, with 19 out of 31 shooting and grabbing 8 boards (tied 3rd highest on the match).

LGM-ED provided us one of the "all-French" meetings of the season, which was one of the big ones in terms of importance. Should LGM have won, they would've gone to 4 Wins-3 Losses (now 3-4) and also restricted their competition ED to 4W3-L (ED now at 5-2)
One note from the box score: LGM shot 0 out of 18 (!) behind the 3 point arc, so theoretically having shot at least 5 out of 18 instead (which would still be only less than 28% success rate) would've earned them a win. (Of course it's not this simple, as they chose inside tactics and this of course gave them boost to their 2p FG% and hindered their success rate behind the arc, but I guess everyone got my point).

Last edited by Wagner at 11/10/2025 11:08:44 AM