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From: FatCurry

To: Coco
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146114.40 in reply to 146114.39
Date: 6/10/2010 6:45:39 PM
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So I decided to run some numbers on my players that I have had long term for you guys to analyze. Each of them had Atrocious experience when I got them. All the minutes are approximate, I have tracked my entire career w/ BuzzerControl which I update every Friday.

Player 1: (7922017) Drafted By Me 18 y/o, Has gone from Atrocious -> Inept
Pop 1
League: 1009
Cup: 107
Playoff: 162
Scrimmage: 358
Total: 1636

Pop 2:
League: 1074
Cup: 31
Playoff: 259
Scrimmage: 200
NT: 69
Total: 1633

Pop 3:
League: 1102
Cup: 41
Playoff: 166
Scrimmage: 26
NT: 259
Total: 1594

Player 2: (7921982) Drafted by me 19 y/o Has gone Atrocious -> Awful
Pop 1
League: 1024
Cup: 97
PO: 130
Scrim: 247
Total: 1498

Pop 2:
League: 730
Cup: 56
Playoff: 173
Scrimmage: 462
Total: 1421

Player 3: (6925069) Bought when he was 19 w/ Atrocious XP. Has gone from atrocious -> Inept
Pop 1:
League: 986
Cup: 355
Playoff: 191
Scrimmage: 396
Total: 1928

Pop 2:
League: 767
Cup: 40
Playoff: 141
Scrimmage: 501
Total: 1449

Pop 3:
League: 1106
Cup: 133
Playoff: 104
Scrimmage: 230
Total: 1573

Player 4: (8983257) Bought by me when 18. Has gone from Atrocious -> Awful
Pop 1:
League: 1044
Cup: 85
Playoff: 112
Scrimmage: 479
Total: 1720

Pop 2:
League: 1046
Cup: 48
Playoff: 252
Scrimmage: 120
Total: 1466

When I have time I am going to run some basic numbers trying to predict the importance of each game and roughly the time it takes to pop. If more people could post data like I have it would increase the sample size and the accuracy.



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146114.41 in reply to 146114.40
Date: 6/10/2010 9:54:08 PM
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That is fantastic data, but the only conclusive evidence I can see from your very tiny sample size is that pops take more than 1400 cumulative minutes.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
From: Jason

To: RiP
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146114.42 in reply to 146114.26
Date: 6/11/2010 1:03:01 AM
Arizona Desert Storm
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Could it be that a player could gain more experience quality minutes if he hits a shot with under a minute to play in a tie game, verse a guy who hits a shot in the 2nd quarter with his team leading by 12?

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146114.43 in reply to 146114.42
Date: 6/11/2010 6:23:12 AM
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I am thinking. Is the Divisions the players play affect their experience? I mean will a Naismith player gain more experience if he plays 1400 mins in Naismith than a player that plays 1400 mins in Canada III.2?

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146114.44 in reply to 146114.43
Date: 6/11/2010 7:05:49 AM
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I am thinking. Is the Divisions the players play affect their experience? I mean will a Naismith player gain more experience if he plays 1400 mins in Naismith than a player that plays 1400 mins in Canada III.2?


in this point i am pretty sure, and the answer is no.

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146114.45 in reply to 146114.44
Date: 6/12/2010 4:22:25 PM
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NEXT QUESTION: Does Home court advantage play less of a role against a visiting experienced player ratrhter than a visiting non-experienced player.

AS in real life, experienced players have been in every arena many times so I would assume they would start to feel comfortable infront of the enemy crowd.

From: Airwin66

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146114.46 in reply to 146114.42
Date: 6/12/2010 5:34:01 PM
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Could it be that a player could gain more experience quality minutes if he hits a shot with under a minute to play in a tie game, verse a guy who hits a shot in the 2nd quarter with his team leading by 12?


I've seen a statement supporting this somewhere. It would make sense as well. A player making clutch shots and *** BuzzerBeater*** shots gains more experience from making that shot. The player comes away with confidence and the ability to make such a shot again in the future. A player consistently missing these kinds of shots does not grow as quickly in experience.


The Buzzer is a Lie!
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146114.47 in reply to 146114.46
Date: 6/12/2010 6:21:52 PM
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I have doubts about it working this way simply because this would require far more complexity than its worth.

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146114.48 in reply to 146114.46
Date: 6/12/2010 11:48:56 PM
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I also have doubt because it takes 1 second to take a clutch shot. So how would they calculate the "more valuable" time? I just don't think this is true, and as yet no one has been able to find any validation.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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146114.49 in reply to 146114.48
Date: 6/13/2010 12:42:02 AM
Kitakyushu
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Disclaimer....this is only speculation....
I bet that the game value goes something like this...
.5 scrimmages
1.0 for normal league games
1.25...rival games and early cup games
1.5 for playoff games, sweet 16 cup games,
1.75...Finals, Cup finals, NT games

Like I said, I am just thinking here..
What does everyone else think?

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