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327516.182 in reply to 327516.179
Date: 9/9/2025 7:17:15 AM
Rajdersi
III.11
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Rajdersi II
You won a lot of games that's it

Lost training - I think we all experienced that
Just imagine your player was injured

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327516.183 in reply to 327516.5
Date: 9/9/2025 7:20:07 AM
Rajdersi
III.11
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Second Team:
Rajdersi II
Hi Wagner,

one thought from my side from end of regular season.

What if 3 teams have same W-L record and every team lost and won one game(with other two teams).
I know it didnt happen but it might be.

Should we think about solution:
-virtual table with only teams with tie?
- +/- differential ?

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327516.184 in reply to 327516.181
Date: 9/10/2025 4:44:19 PM
Wagner College
II.2
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238238
game set (y)

Hello Paul George,
Please send another match challenge to Elan Demars as soon as possible, because match link you have provided in your teams' own box score post is played 1 hour too late. Time remains the same during Playoffs, as it is during that seasons' Regular Season.
So official HGL match time this season is 15.30 (a.k.a. 3.30PM) EET Daylight Savings Time, so match time needs to be 14.30 Polish time (which equals to 15.30 EET DST).

(All other matches for Second Round have been organized at correct time).

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327516.185 in reply to 327516.183
Date: 9/10/2025 5:33:03 PM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
238238
Hi Wagner,

one thought from my side from end of regular season.

What if 3 teams have same W-L record and every team lost and won one game(with other two teams).
I know it didnt happen but it might be :).

Should we think about solution:
-virtual table with only teams with tie?
- +/- differential ?


Excellent question, Paul George! I think I've speculated on this situation earlier, but it might have been on Homegrown teams II-thread, and I won't try to search for that/those messages right now. But I'll try to respond something now..

First, even though it might seem like a minor correction, HGL uses points to rank teams, and while this is most of the time equivalent of wins, in the case of forfeits it will have an effect on league position (which was the case with KKS on this Season 2). But I of course got your point.. :)

So situation that you mentioned about could indeed become a challenge, if for example team
A wins B
B wins C, and
C wins A.
Then we would face situation where one should be above another, except that third team "messes up" that easy solution if one of the tied teams doesn't lose to both other tied teams... If I have made a mistake in my thinking (in an above example, that it would make it impossible to solve situation without adding another layer/method of comparison), anybody please let me know.

I can't remember exactly how I speculated on those chances to solve such situation (and if I haven't written about it anywhere in BB, I have thought about it). We have plenty of time to speculate/decide on it (S3 Playoffs).

First, I need to ask what do you mean by that "virtual table with only teams with tie"? An "isolated table within a league table", in which possibly different classification methods are applied (than in normal 'no tie' or '2-way tie' situations)?
I kind of do that already with each tie case separately, but of course it's far more simple to do that if it's only a 2-way tie.

Anyway, as far as I remember, I might have suggested using at least two different solutions to such situation.

As I'm very defense orientated myself (even though looking at my allowed points in HGL doesn't show that), I think my first and foremost solution would've been to award best position to a team with least allowed points (Yes, contrary to typical "score as much as possible"-mentality that media seems to appreciate nowadays, I appreciate excellent defense way more and would like to give great defense as much appreciation as possible - only downside from my point of view being, that this number for each team is not currently readily available, unless HGL special statistics are being updated, which they haven't for example on this season after Round 6, but it'd be possible to manually count numbers at the end of the season if somewhat unlikely 3-way tie situation would exist.).

The other, at least passable option to rate teams, would be to use scoring differential (+/-) value, which is always readily available on a league table, and while it's in a way "as fair as any" classification system, it does favor certain playing styles/strategies if you want to "optimize" your point differential.
This was one of the reasons, in addition to me really thinking that the team which has won RS meeting should be rated higher, why point differential isn't one of the (first, if at all) decisive factors on determining league positions in the case of ties - and this policy/classification method was also introduced to HGL in order to be able to add more fun aspect to it.

Like I mentioned, it's sometimes great to be able try to give even few minutes playing time to my older players, or try interesting tactics choices, while simultaneously trying to win (if I feel comfortable enough about my chances to win after such experiments), as in "regular BB league" I can't really almost ever do that as I have to fight for survival. (I guess many HG teams face same challenge).


From: Wagner

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327516.186 in reply to 327516.144
Date: 9/11/2025 4:49:55 AM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
238238
France, who else ?


:o

Finland, anyone? ;)
But in all honesty, of course if our countries would meet during playoffs, yours would be a significant favorite.

However, what I like in this current tournament format, is that it's a 'one match decides it all'-playoff format, and for example Poland was able to shock everyone previously by ending 4th in the whole Championship competition (which, in addition to many other Polish people, must have been a great moment of joy for Rajdersi's Paul George!).

Back to off-topic for a short while:
It seems nobody jumped with me on this boat, but after such a historical match result yesterday which sealed my prediction, I don't mind. ;)

From: demars

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327516.187 in reply to 327516.186
Date: 9/11/2025 7:02:16 AM
Elan Demars
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You're right. Finland beat Serbia with a great game.
I unfortunately missed the game between Georgia and France. OK, France had some big guys out of the tournament, but Georgia made a big upset too.