OK..I was being lazy. I did use the word about. But I was way off( sorry)I went back and added scrimages to my excel sheet. My player popped on March 16 in a game he only played 9 minutes. Since then, not including PL games, he had played a total of 1118 minutes between his awful pop and his inept pop. I have two other players at about the 1000 minutes mark so when they pop I will let you know( both awful experience) Also, my 1st assessment ( 750 minutes) was wrong, but I do believe it takes only a season and a half to get an experience pop which is between 1100-1200 minutes for a starter on ones team. The 1600 minutes seems way too long between pops, but you never know, it was a pop to mediorce which I have no expericene with. I do plan on keeping my player for a while, so I will see if the inept to mediorce pop takes longer. Peace