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186102.1
Date: 5/29/2011 10:50:55 AM
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Hi all

Just wondering if anyone can provide some help or information with regards to the successes/fails they have had, specifically regarding playing one player, at two different backup positions.
ie: Player 1 set as backup for both PG and SG.

If there are any existing threads on this, redirection would also be great.

Specifically, the kind of information im after is as follows:
- Expected number of minutes played by the backup.
- Increase in the usage of the 'reserve' players in those positions and the minutes played.
- How their player rotations worked with regards to the first Starter subbed (ie: Why was the PG subbed first?).
- Any other positives/negatives that people have found.

I usually always set my Coach settings to 'Strictly follow Depth chart' and im looking at having one player set as backup for PG-SG and also another player set as backup for SF-PF.

Thanks all in advanced

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186102.2 in reply to 186102.1
Date: 5/29/2011 11:03:53 AM
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I have done it this way for a couple seasons and have mixed feeling about it. Normally it is alright, both starters get substituted and weekly minutes are fine. But often times it happened, that one of the starters gets 45+ minutes. That can be caused by injuries or 6 fouls by the other starter or the couch just wouldn't substitute. I often ended up with weak game shape because played minutes differed a lot from one week to the next one.

I cannot tell how many minutes one can expect of the backup. One game he plays 15 minutes, next game 2 and so on. I would recommend one backup for each position to maintain the best game shape.

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186102.3 in reply to 186102.1
Date: 5/29/2011 4:11:25 PM
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I use this mode all the time to help manage minutes and get training in. I play the same player at backup for guard and the same player at backup PF/C. A another player as SF. It is basically and 8 man rotation.

I dual position train pg/sg and this works well. I start the same players in the league games each week and they get 48+ minutes. The back up get around 40 minutes in the league games. The Backup SF starts the scrimmage and the backup guards is his backup in the scrimmage. I also am able to start a player for 48 minutes in the scrimmage.

With this model I am able to train without playing players for 48 minutes in league games. I am not a fan of a player getting 48 minutes in a game. I believe performance drops way off when this happens. Also it allows me to keep the best players on the court. I can have 8 really good players using this method and fill out my team with junk time scrubs.

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186102.4 in reply to 186102.3
Date: 5/30/2011 2:26:57 AM
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Nicely put...I do the same thing. My reason isn't because of training but has to do with cash restrictions. So I have a 3 really good bigs..Start two and have the 3rd back the other two up.... I then have a starting PG,SG and SF and I have one back up PG and the other guy subs in for the SG/SF.....I love this system...

Last edited by Yellow cake at 5/30/2011 2:27:55 AM

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186102.5 in reply to 186102.4
Date: 5/30/2011 1:42:51 PM
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Thanks peoples for replying, ill have a play around with the lineups in some Private league games, shouldnt be too difficult, I think ive got the right players for it, so should be ok.

Thanks again.

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186102.7 in reply to 186102.6
Date: 5/31/2011 7:54:54 AM
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yer i kinda do this already, except my backup big's are different players.

but yer, it will be some modification of that. VERY rarely have my reserve players been used. I dont take into account those positions into training minutes, because its so inconisisnt. Like, maybe two or three times in a year those players set in the reserve positions get used.

maybe other people get it more, but i do find it very rare, so i just ignore it and make sure someone useful is set there.

My biggest challange is that im looking at playing the same guy at SF-PF in the backup position. His stats are all fairly well rounded, but his rebounding sux. Inept i think off the top of my head. im hoping he will pop one or two more times this year, such that i can use him more in this plan.
Same with my player that i want to use at PG-SG, his passing isnt really up to scratch. So im not sure if I will do that with him. I will see how we go.