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68268.1
Date: 01/11/2009 12:23:57
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I blieve it is a misconception that inside players shoot more free throws in basketball. The majority of guys who get to the line a lot are guys who drive to the basket. That's the way it has been in every level of basketball I have played or seen. There are certain dominant big men who teams foul because of the No-Better-Choice factor, but the majority of players with high free throw attempts are SG / SF types with great driving skills. At least as many as big men.

I noticed you mention that inside guys shoot more FT on the nomenclature page of the rules, and lately I have seen managers cite this as a deciding factor in tactic choice. I think driving skil should be considered more in whether a guy gets fouled while shooting or not..

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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68268.2 in reply to 68268.1
Date: 01/11/2009 15:11:26
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say this to shaq(over 5,000 FT missed in his career on over 10,000 shot)or dwight howard.It depends by the type of attack used and by the FT%of the various players in reality

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68268.3 in reply to 68268.2
Date: 01/11/2009 18:19:54
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i agree that inside focus should metter the most. Aside from FTs from bonus, most of Fts are from shooting fouls in the paint. After drive, fast break, offensive rebound,...

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68268.4 in reply to 68268.3
Date: 01/12/2009 04:59:03
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It's not inside focus that causes them- that's my point. It is driving and creating advantages that create fouls. Iagree that most shooting fouls happen in the paint, just not that an inside focus is what causes them.

And to me a drive from the wing or baseline is not an inside focus- it is the reason why outside focus works in real hoops, namely that if a gu can shoot and drive then the defense has to pick its poison- don't cover and jumpers get nailed. Go out tight and get blwon by on the way to a layup.


Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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68268.5 in reply to 68268.4
Date: 01/12/2009 05:12:02
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I think this is a different rating altogether that BB should have, one rating for how much you get fouled and one rating for how much you foul.

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68268.6 in reply to 68268.4
Date: 01/12/2009 06:59:34
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I disagree. Driving helps but you can be fouled on numerous different ocassions. I already mentioned sopme of them, I can add clever pass to the open man under the basket (often after help defense on the other big man).

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68268.7 in reply to 68268.6
Date: 01/12/2009 07:37:05
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Well, you have every right to disagree. I suppose I would, for arguments sake, point out that a fast break is often finished with a drive and that a clever look to the open man under the basket is the result of a player driving the lane at least if not far more often than the other big man being doubled.

Totally agree with you about offensive rebounds.

The reason I brought it up in the first place was after looking at the stats for Lebron James, who was given legendray driving for the simulation. He draws all kinds of fouls ( when they can touch him ) as do Wade, Iverson, Bryant, Pierce, and a host of other perimeter players. I thought about what those players had in common and why they draw so many fouls and it came down to their ability to get to the basket off the dribble. Soooooo, I just think it's a bit of an oversimplification for such a complicated, sophisticated simulator to give inside tactics more FT opportunities.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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68268.8 in reply to 68268.7
Date: 01/12/2009 10:22:44
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I was just pointing out that not only driving. Driving is a good way to get calls. Disrupting of opponents defense is often done this way too. I generally agree.