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Guys, why do you start new discussions about already clear things every couple of months?

Before the game, the engine takes both teams. It calculates, based on the skills, who is the best offense player and who is the best defense player. Nothing more and nothing less. The defense player isn't the guy with the highest OD or ID, it's the player with the highest overall defense. And that's the one who has the best OD+ID+SB+ST rating. For a lot of teams it's the SF or PF.
This defender will play against the best engine calculated offense player. Based on the defense power of the +1, there are three possible outcomes:
1) the defender sucks and the offense guy will score like he wants
2) defense and offense are equal and the offense player will have problems, but will be still one of the dominant players
3) the defender is a beast and shuts the offense player down

If 3) is the case, the engine will switch to another scoring option. So it can happen, that your +1 defender plays against a guy who takes only five or six shots during the whole game. The reason for this is his high defense.
The other four guys will play with their box against the offense of the opponent. And the engine will decide who is the new scoring option. So the guy who takes most of the shots is only scoring option nr. 2 in reality.

And there is more stuff to the boxes than I don't want to reveal. I have to be sure that I still have some advantages left for my own teams and the german NT.

You forgot one ...

4) Mismatch: The best defender is an outside defender and the best offensive player is an inside player, or the other way around. Chaos ensues.

That's covered in option 1.

That's covered in option 1.

Nope.

1) the defender sucks ...

is not the same as what I'm saying. The defender could be great and if he doesn't guard the best shooter(s) you'll still get a mismatch. You have to try to be sure that your best defender is guarding the guy you want to stop.

The defender doesn't suck no but the result is the same; the attacker scores at will. Wether that's because the defender is bad overall or just in that matchup doesn't matter very much.

All right, then by your reasoning Nachbar had too many possibilities. By your reasoning there are only two possibilities, it works or it doesn't. The different reasons WHY it works or it doesn't don't matter.

That is no help in learning to make it work, though.

I had a terrible experience with box: (79066268)
I knew already I had to stop his C, PF so I thought to use what should be the best defensive tactic following the rules but probably something has gone wrong...

I had a nice experience with this tactic (79016935). It's not the first time I use box+1 succesfully but I believe this is a really good example of what it does and when to use it.

I knew I had to guard my rival's key player no mather what (L. Zaccaría (27292670), Argentina's NT PF) because the other ones were not as good as him, and it worked like a charm. My stating defender quickly made 3 fouls but the bench player did an outstanding defensive job.

He was attampting 11-19 FGs and 26 Pts on average before the match. The result was him attempting only 8 FGs in the whole match, with just 12 Pts.

I think the key to this tactic is to use it when you know you are facing an unbalanced offense with only one key player. If there is more than one good offensive player to guard it won't work because what you are going to get is a zone defense with your best defender never being in the equation to guard those other shooters. Well, at least that's the way I see it :)

Don't remember exactly the skills but:

P: 18 OD, 10 ID
G: 17 OD, 11 ID
SF: 17 OD, 15 ID
PF: 6 OD, 16 ID, 12 SB
C: 8 OD, 15 ID, 13 SB

You can check by yourself on the TL some of them.
Usually my main problem is the attack, this time it was the opposite...

Last edited by ned at 3/27/2015 7:59:03 AM

ouch, your opponent's centers went 27-32 against your box, that hurts. his PF went 50%. maybe your best defender was defending his SF, his SF was 1-10...