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[U21] How to train a U21 player

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112743.10 in reply to 112743.9
Date: 9/21/2009 7:56:11 PM
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Added a piece on height and having good staff to train players. I can't believe I left that out.

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112743.12 in reply to 112743.11
Date: 9/22/2009 8:29:01 AM
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I modified the text to say that jump range is inefficient (maybe even ineffective) to train past prominent. Actually, just about every experienced user I talked to agreed with RIP on this one.

So you see, even I learned something from this exercise.

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112743.13 in reply to 112743.12
Date: 9/22/2009 10:08:56 AM
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Fantastic work, Chuck. That is some awesome advice and a great summary...it will be a nice reference to look back on multiple times to refresh my memory whenever I am in doubt about something. Anyway we can have it "stickied" so it is at the top of the Canada forum for easy reference for all folks interested in training for the U21 team (as well as just training in general)?

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112743.14 in reply to 112743.13
Date: 9/22/2009 12:49:35 PM
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Regarding the jump range debate, BB-Charles has said that the theory outlined to me by RIP, Jbmcrock, harfang and some other anonomus GMs is just not true. I guess you will have to make up your own mind, unless Charles offers more specifics: (112418.21).

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112743.15 in reply to 112743.9
Date: 9/22/2009 7:53:43 PM
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Thanks for putting so much time into this Paulo,



I'm not sure Paulo would be comfortable taking credit for this. ;-)



Wow! My bad, I am so used to Paulo being the U21 manager, My bad! I am not used to writing too much to you Chuck, hopefully that will change soon enough.

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112743.16 in reply to 112743.15
Date: 9/22/2009 8:18:26 PM
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I think this is very well done, I will look over the weekend to see if there is anything to add.

I would make sure to emphasize the importance of defense (od for guards and id for pf and centre), as that still seems to get lost a lot in the training shuffle. In my opinion, each guard should have a higher od rating that js rating. I have seen Charles's comment about jr, but stand by my experience. One of my players, Viniambres has a js/jr breakdown of 19/10 and seems to be ill effected by the unbalanced jr. My observations of players with js/jr distributions of 14/14 or 15/15 appear to provide worse results.

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112743.17 in reply to 112743.7
Date: 9/26/2009 1:53:57 AM
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Yup, this rocks. I have too many decisions in real life - I really need a guide for BB.

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112743.18 in reply to 112743.1
Date: 11/7/2009 9:00:59 AM
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Vincent Perron (9256339) Shooting Guard
Właściciel: KS Spójnia Stargard
Trening: Rzut z wyskoku


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112743.19 in reply to 112743.18
Date: 11/7/2009 9:21:45 PM
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Replied already by PM... Like I said, 6th man potential is just not enough for him to be able to make the team. Sorry.

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112743.20 in reply to 112743.19
Date: 12/4/2009 3:18:36 PM
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Ok, my experience this season has showed me the value to overtraining outside d on a guard trainee early in his career. So I updated that part of my guide.

Also, I am starting to see the importance of jump range in some situations. I have had great results this season with my player Pisanu when I run outside oriented offenses. I also noticed that he seems to make the players around him better - Wendon went off with a 45 pt game not too long ago, and it is not like his outside shooting is outstanding (sure, he was up against a player with low outside d, but that can't be the only factor).

When I play a look inside, Pisanu seems to suffer, but I don't think it is because of his JR.

Anyhow, I will just leave it as I don't think JR is completely ineffective past prominent. But there seems to be many opinions out there.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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