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That does sound easier than clicking the "Delete" and redrafting a new message. Quite possibly it is also more appealing than clicking "Reply" and replying to myself to correct my mistakes as well.

Thank you kind GM.

You seem like you'd enjoy a good game of checkers here and there?

I would enjoy checkers even more so now that you taught me the one single strategy point to live by while playing ;)

I hate to say it, but competing in D.IV, D.III, and D.II, and maybe even D.I though i haven't been there myself is not a fair comparison to the NT. It's like suggesting a prospect in the MLB is going to do great in the majors because they hit .400 in A, .377 in AA, and .343 in AAA and you project them to hit .280-.300 in most seasons in the majors because of it. And then you break it down into AB's versus pitchers that have high marks on movement pitches such as curveballs and sliders and sinkers, and those who are predominantly Fastball/Changeup pitchers, and all of a sudden his split against pitchers with plus movement stuff in AA is .232 and AAA is .203.

I don't think too much of comparing yourself to other managers on the NT team, because even those in the NBBA along side of you have ownership of current past or future NT talents. They've given up part of their team to make that happen, whereas you have not done so at all yet.

What probably bugs me about people in general that aren't on the offsite at all is that they say "This decision the NT manager made this, or this decision the U21 manager made on that, or this talent development on player x or y" like it's one guy. You are basically calling every single one of them out with your statements. Theres not a chance in the world you yourself have of coming into that room with all of those people and getting buy-in if you cannot get past the fact that the NT job is not a one man show. It is why those 11-15 votes put people like Isaiah in front of you. If you really have something to bring to the table, go on the offsite, get involved in the next two seasons in analyzing games like i do for the u21, and if you bring legitimate information and analytical skills of the game engine to the table, you being the NT manager in the near future wouldn't be that unreasonable.

to chek: Isaiah doesn't need me to defend him from a forum troll or two. I'd rather try and get some sort of commitment out of one newer managers who has shown interest by answering their questions and hoping they might visit the offsite some time, maybe someone else who has commented once or twice that isn't on the offsite yet, and then the one other person who legitimately wants to bring something to the NT manager role at some point in the future. If even one of the three is on board by the end of the debate thread, then we have gained something out of it. I'd really like all three, i think i all of them are capable of bringing up the level of play in the competition at a club level as well as potentially all either being good at training up Nt prospects or helping tactics in the team. As for my vote, it's obvious based on what i've said that i've now made up my mind on this election.

Fury/Yimmy

Isaiah doesn't need me to defend him from a forum troll or two.

Oops.

I already did :-)

I apologize for saying I was the only one defending him. I was grumpy this morning and regret a lot of my involvement in this thread. Message erased, if that matters.

I'm out of this thread. See you all on the offsite.

-Chek

Isaiah doesn't need me to defend him from a forum troll or two.

Oops.

I already did :-)

I apologize for saying I was the only one defending him. I was grumpy this morning and regret a lot of my involvement in this thread. Message erased, if that matters.

I'm out

-Chek

Like Elton John?

No your baseball analogy is more applicable to the players not the manager. Again from a pure tactical standpoint, it is one human manager versus another. You can out coach an opponent even if your roster is not at the same level as the other. That's what I bring to the table and what's been lacking in the past couple of seasons. We need a manager who can outsmart the opposing manager regardless of the team's condition.

I never said the NT is a one man show. Obviously there are a lot of people helping out. But again (I don't know how many times I've mentioned this), I am talking about tactics. Yeah people lend advice on how to play each game, but the tactics rely heavily on the NT manager.

Is this the debate thread or the "vote for this guy because I said so and I'm voting for him too"?

Is this the debate thread or the "vote for this guy because I said so and I'm voting for him too"?

Don't all elections ultimately come down to endorsements?

I'd disagree again on the last statement. Tough on the u21 side is a good example. tons of energy, tons of interest in getting people developing talent for the u21 and some that should go to the NT get passed directly there. His tactical knowledge comes from other managers.

My baseball analogy is whatever you want it to be i guess. I think it is true to form here. You're free to visit me on the offsite, on even on the mibbit chat on the offsite, happy to debate tactics with you there for days.

I think in the future the debate thread should actually be structured as a debate. Only a couple of people should serve as the moderators asking the questions and the candidates respond and have the opportunity to address each other. It would help keep it organized and on topic.

My memory may be bad but it seems more prevalent these past seasons.

If you an Isaiah can agree to a time, I've actually moderated debates before so I could set up something probably run via Google Docs. I say you and Isaiah because it looks to be the two of you as the leading candidates, and with this being America we have this tradition of giving the people only 2 true candidates.

Edited to add that tomorrow or Saturday would work best for me to set something up so I can get it posted by Sunday for all to see before the election finalizes.

Last edited by khenry at 5/26/2016 4:59:54 PM