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84578.9 in reply to 84578.6
Date: 4/7/2009 2:28:35 AM
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I went with level 2 pr-guy until late last season. Full house/near full house every game and about 16-18k dollars worth of merchandise with a winning team in division III.
This season on division II with a winning team and L4, I overestimated ticket price for bleachers and it shows. 70-75% attendance and mechandise sales aren't improving either. Highest its been is $26k, but now with 1 loss after 13 straight wins in league and cup, its down to $24k (with 3½ balls in fansurvey). So I don't feel he is really pulling his share financially, but he is a local kid, so I'm going to stick with him for now.

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84578.10 in reply to 84578.9
Date: 4/8/2009 6:27:51 AM
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around 40% extra income are so bad, for merchandise?

And 70-75 % vsitors for a succesfull team, ain't good prices, there you could raise your income with smaller prices.

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84578.11 in reply to 84578.10
Date: 4/8/2009 2:31:14 PM
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After 1 1/2 seasons of a level 1 PR Manager (PRM), I decided to pony up and purchase a level 4 PRM, and after more than half a season I did not see a drastic change in ticket sales, merchandise sale, TV Contract, or fan survey that would merit a 14k salary for a PRM.

I estimated I was making about 4-6k more a week with an upgraded PRM, but losing 10k a week due to the PRM salary.

Does anyone have anything to add or dispute to this?

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84578.12 in reply to 84578.11
Date: 4/8/2009 5:04:23 PM
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I just downgraded my PR as well, because I thought it wasnt worth it... =)

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84578.13 in reply to 84578.10
Date: 4/8/2009 5:57:37 PM
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I'm using $14k more on staff wages and get $3k less in merchandise than my league's averages are.

Thanks, but since I can adjust ticket prices once a month, I'd rather adjust them cautiously and lose some money, than adjust them radically and lose lots of money.

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84578.14 in reply to 84578.12
Date: 4/8/2009 5:58:27 PM
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but does a level 4 PR with no specialty still help on the crowd enthusiasm, thereby helping to win some games as well?

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84578.15 in reply to 84578.14
Date: 4/9/2009 3:52:14 AM
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No, only the speciality PR managers do that, for home or away matches.

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84578.16 in reply to 84578.13
Date: 4/9/2009 4:17:36 AM
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first of all you don't knao what PR is average, i don't know if you overpay your staff or maybe if you are the team with the best training and doctor enviroment ;)

But the main think is, that i expect the PR working must on visitors, the difference in advertise is low but is it very hard to compare the amount of visitor with the same succes - so it is hard to tell if a high level PR is a waste of money or not for me.

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84578.17 in reply to 84578.5
Date: 4/15/2009 10:16:51 AM
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I never knew bots could post in the forums, lol

Too bad he is not a supporter that would be an icing on a cake:)

From: docend24

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84578.19 in reply to 84578.18
Date: 4/17/2009 5:41:55 AM
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No, they don't increase. Yes, the effect is the same.

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