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Hello,
Maybe i can try to help you, understanding better the season tickets holders.

In my own opinion, i think they exist to give us a "clue", to the maximum arena capacity.
Following this ideia, and my own experience, we can assume that it represents between 15 and 20% of the maximum number of seats you can have in your arena.

So if you have 1.405 season tickets holders, your total arena seats should be around 8.780.
Then, you have to brake down that number, in the various types of seats, something around this:

Bleachers (83%), Lower Tier (13,5%), Courtside Seats (3,25%), Luxury Boxes (0,25%)

Best regards.

I'm not sure if that's the case. My season ticket holders is only 596 but I have 100 % attendence every time (5450). I only joined this game at the end of last season and I was ranked 8th so probably the season ticket holders for this season is very low but depending on how well you play, there could be a lot of audience.

I actually think a season ticket holder will purchase the most expensive ticket he can afford so the the ratio all depends on your pricing.

Example: If a season ticket holder can afford a $50 seat but your lower tier is at $70, he will buy a bleachers seat. If you drop your Lower Tier price to $40 he will buy that instead...

I don't think a season ticket holder is stuck with the same seat all season, this would be way harder to code and wouldn't work very well with price changes. You would really have to have a BB answer this question for a definitive answer thou as I don't think anyone else really knows.

You said it all in your answer, when you joined the game your team was 8th, so you got a low season ticket holder for this season, but as you are ruling your league with 12-0 you can set your prices much higher.
As you can see you already have 11% of your arena filled, so it´s either time to improve the prices or the size of it.

Attendance is always related with wins, both in the league and cup games, so in my opinion you should BUILD a lot more seats in your arena, and you wouldn´t even have to lower your prices very much.
Or if you don´t have money to improve your arena, you can raise your tickets price, earning even more money.

I don't think you can predict which seats a season ticket holder will buy, and i doesn´t even matter where he will seat.

What matters to me, is trying to explain to a new user, how much seats should he build, in order to have a profit and trying to maximize his gains.

Selling tickets will always depend on wins ans prices, so you must adjust the prices acoording to your season records, but even then you must have a clue to how much seats you should have in your arena.

And if you check the most sucessful teams in the game, you will also see that the ratios i gave are pretty close to reality, but i say again it all depends on each team.

Hello,
As you can see in my previous posts, this is only my humble opinion, based on my own experience.
I have also stated that, this numbers are the reflection of various sucessful teams, in my country, league and private leagues.

And your own numbers (87,5% - 9,75% - 2,50% - 0,25%) aren´t that far from those i mentioned in my post, and you can also see that i stated that attendance depended on WINS and PERFOMANCE of your team.

That said, what i think is more important for a new user, is trying to understand IF he should improved his arena, and HOW MANY seats and distribution he should have.

Don´t understand your reference to Hattrick, which i actually played several years ago (but not anymore), because it was never refered in my post, and has no logical connection to my explanation.

Instead of second guessing someone that´s trying to help, why don´t you try to explain it better ? I think that would be very much helpfull regarding your long experience with the game.

Best regards.

also you shpuldn''t forgot that kozlo own numbers are affected by the cap, so you shouldn't wonder if must teams have the same amount of VIP lounges when you check up top divisiions ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/14/2010 4:24:11 PM

GM -koz

this is more of checking the accuracy of my prediction or estimate. I have only played about 5 weeks but see some patterns.

1) moving up divisions (relagating seem to kill fan attendance), 2) winning in the current division, 3)have a good PR manager.

those three factors seem to me to drive attendance.

Now the biggest factor is price. Price in relation to the above conditions.

What I see is that in general it looks like a good idea to underprice while building your stadium up. I won't give an optimum ratio because I think that someone needs to test it on their own and get a good "feel" rather than me giving some sort of hint.

But, it seems to me with the next price decision coming soon, that if your team is "winning" and will have a chance to push up in divisions, that one should prepare by reducing price and expanding. With the objective of expanding to the size arena of leaders in the divisions above yours.

So in my final thoughts, there is a good ratio, and also there seems to be a point of over-expansion, but not if you are moving up divisions...in comparison to say, getting a better team that can win the division.

Thoughts?