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293245.7 in reply to 293245.6
Date: 4/13/2018 7:09:44 AM
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Thanks for laying out your future plans in detail and we are both in agreement that it is always tough for new managers to start in a new team that they have only inherited. It's good that you are aware of this and have a realistic plan in place, I'd say you're on the right track.

We hope you will be able to actualize your national training program and succeed in your bid as U21 manager. I can give you my assurance that I will lend my assistance on whatever capacity to our National Team as PR Manager. (y)

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Date: 4/13/2018 8:38:43 AM
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I trained also Ireland NT in the past, carrying them one match away from an incredible qualification to the second European round. So I know how a small community can work and how critical can be, but I'm pretty confident on how to revert or improve things.
Most important is to have the community on my side, because I can do miracles (I hope!), but without players or without shape nobody can achieve anything.
As I said, no secret, I'll share all my training plans, all the numbers, everything in order to win something.


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Date: 4/13/2018 1:02:38 PM
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And today I spent 2,5 million on two 18 yo Gilas!

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Date: 4/14/2018 6:51:00 AM
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Filipinos are very passionate about basketball and how our national teams are run. I myself see the national and U21 head coach positions as sacred and thus have not applied because of the commitment needed despite my enjoyment of this game. How would you respond to a section of the community that prefers a Filipino coach. Secondly, given your experience how would you link the U21 team and the National team for long term success in both programs. Lastly good luck with the election, we welcome everyone who wants to bring glory to the Philippine basketball program.

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293245.11 in reply to 293245.10
Date: 4/14/2018 9:16:37 AM
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Hello! Nice to meet you.

I would divide my answer in three sides:

- commitment: I already proved how dedicated I can be. Without even know if I'll be the coach or not I acquired two filipino 18yo spending 2,5M in order to let them grow with my lev. 7 trainer. That's nothing obviously, but I can guarantee you that in my coaching there won't be any difference with what I did in Italy. If you want, it would be great to me to carry you a Discord channel. It helped us a lot in the last season to create a sense of community which have been lost in the past seasons. In Italy we had several issues because of no one on the forum or even answering to our BB Mails and using Discord was amazing for us. Every monday we had users following our U21/NT, our staff was able to communicate better (instead of using BB Mails or whatsapp or whatever) and most of the users were really happy because they can learn simply by asking in some kind of a live chat with us. This is Discord if you want to look into it more: https://discordapp.com/
If you all agree, it would be fine for me to create a Filipino channel.

- being foreign coach: I know it can be a problem unfortunately. And it is not my method to push me if people simply don't want me. What I can bring here is 40 seasons of experience in Italy, one of the most difficult countries, 10 seasons coaching U21/NT (Italy U21 8 and Ireland NT 2), all my "secrets", all my knowledge of this game with the porpouse to win. I am not the kind of person who likes to lose time, so if I candidate myself is because I believe in what I am trying to do. And I will be fully dedicated to it, fully available to talk with everyone, to answer to all your questions, to explain my choices, to give you details about training or whatever. I want to win and it will require development, so be sure that I'll be more here in your forum and in BB mails with you instead of all the other stuff I do in the game As I said, I didn't even ask to anyone in Italy to join me here. I'll be the lone foreign, because for the rest I want you to be a part of it. I want Filipino staff, I talked with the current staff and I would welcome anyone of you onboard if you desire. Just ask and I'll be glad to add you.

- U21/NT: in Italy I was well incline to merge our training programs with the NT coach. At the beginning of each season, we together took a look at every prospect trying to decide which one could have been more suitable for a U21 run or which one to directly set up for a future in NT. It applies mainly to high potential and all around players, so that helped a lot to create some standards. For example, legendary potential with good skillset for us started immediatly with one on one SF/PF, to boost their HN which is the greatest skill related to elastic training. I know that here the # of players are not so high as it is in Italy, so losing a potential prospect could be bad, but basically I'll be always open for discussion with the NT

Hope this answer is enough for your question. Feel free to ask me more if needed

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293245.12 in reply to 293245.11
Date: 4/14/2018 11:41:03 AM
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Goodluck Coach NdR and i will be here to support and help you with your campaign it's time to rise the Flag of U21 NT and NT Seniors in the World Stage. Let's Go Bring Home the Bacon 😊😊😊 Coach NdR FTW!!!

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Date: 4/14/2018 8:44:58 PM
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Thank you for the response.

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293245.14 in reply to 293245.13
Date: 4/15/2018 3:41:31 AM
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Good day, Coach NdR619!

I appreciate the fact that you are going to bring your golden experience to boost our U21 program. I know that it is a very rare opportunity for a country to be coached by a world-renowned BB Manager! The last time that our U21 team was handled by a foreign coach was approximately 16 seasons ago where he brought the team into absolute glory that was unmatched ever since. I know that each person is unique in skills and mindset. I hope that, if ever you win, you could surpass that achievement.

I just want to ask the following questions:

1) How are we going to be sure that you are not going to share any confidential information from our country (player's skillset, etc.)? For example, you are going against Italia U21. Aren't you going to spill any info or give way to them? Will your loyalty to us still remain the same?

2. In connection to jeorge9's question, considering that there are over 90+ countries in BB, why the Philippines? You also said that you aim to become the first ever Grandslam coach, winning in Asia, Africa, and Europe. Isn't this for personal gain or to increase your already built reputation?

3. There has been inactivity in our community for a long time. For sure, some newbies out there are not even aware of U21's existence! Therefore, they have no knowledge how to train. And, given the fact that they are still new to the game, they are shy to approach a veteran to ask how to develop a player. How are you going to spread awareness regarding this matter?

4. We know that you are already an experienced manager. Playing BB for 40 seasons (approximately 11 years) is such an achievement. Included in those countless achievements are handling Italy and Ireland. However, this is your first time handling an Asian team, if ever you will win. Are you ready to supervise people of other culture? Surely, Italy and the Philippines have a culture gap (Forget about pizza. We love pizza). Are you able to gel well with us? How will you handle culture shock, if this happens?

5. Aside from your experience, what is your edge over other local candidates that makes you a good fit for the job?

6. You also mentioned in one of your posts in this forum that your game philosophy is quite particular, making the right offensive and defensive combinations. It is a common tendency among us to develop all-around players: that they want to see that their players have many pops. We know for sure that you cannot develop a perfect player within 3 seasons only. Do you believe that the Philippines is ready for this change of training philosophy?

7. How confident are you that you are what our nation is looking for? The team has faced many problems for these past few years. Lack of talent. Lack of support. Lack of coordination. Are you the solution we are looking for?


Thank you in advanced!

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Date: 4/15/2018 4:07:39 AM
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1) There won't be any profit in sharing my way of playing. Just to give you an example, I've been the first to rely on the offbalanced Patient, someone did that in the past but only in "99%" losing match, just to try to hit the jackpot, something like the Full court press. I built up a roster to sustain this kind of tactic and it carried me to gold and silver. And now many teams are using it, same goes for 3-2 with internal prediction. I love to do experiments and to make my game less predictable. So even without considering my loyalty (which I can guarantee will be max), it won't be good for me to share anything, since my unique way of playing could be stolen and replicated.

2) I choose Philippines because you represent a challenge to me. My goal is always to win but I do also love to build something. I could have chosen many other countries if my only claim was to gain another piece of glory, basically I don't need it. I received offers to candidate myself in USA for example, which could have been a sure Gold in the Americans and a great team to face the World championship, but that's not what I'm looking for right now. I would like to be a part of a little nation development, if that will result in more glory for me that would mean we will achieve something and when I'll done my job I would like to leave you (exactly as I did in Italy) something to continue to follow my path or at least to create your own one based on the experience we shared together in these seasons with me as coach. That's why I didn't want italian guys with me as staff, that's why I contacted at first local current staff and I tried to animate this thread This is not NdR619 against the world, but this is Philippines.

3) I usually contact every interesting player, with the help of my staff. I did it in Italy with rather 600 18yo players every season, so here with less players it would be easier. As I mentioned before, if you agree I would like to create a Discord channel which helped us a lot. And basically I'd like to win something, winning helps a lot a community to feel the emotion together.

4) Basketball lovers are everywhere, so yeah, cultural difference and some kind of.... I mean, foreign coach which can be unwelcomed could be a point, but aside fun is fun, basketball is basketball and in my real life I'm a trainer too So to me no prob at all in helping managers from the beginning or even to share my ideas and have confrontation with old and experienced ones.

5) Two things: training and creativity. Experience gave me the structure on how I want a team to be built, but then in Italy and in the World I've been famous for my creativity. Last season we beat USA team which doubled us in salaries and DMI. We were ready to be outlashed, but combination of players with the risky tactic choices I put in place... we picked up a great W. And we beat Spain too. So we beat 1st and 2nd in the last World Championship! So, basically I am fully convinced that chemistry allows you to create better teams than the lone skills. You can have 5 big men with same skillset, same goes for the backcourt, you will always be predictable, you will always suffer in case of bad shapes, you will always find someone better than you in your favourite tactic. Based on this I developed different training plans, allowing each user to choos which one he prefers. That created a strong bond between me and the users, because I didn't let them feel forced to train a U21 player, they trained because it was best for their team too. Following my plan though

6) All around players are my way to see the game too, but U21 depends on how you draft a player. For example, many big men are drafted with low OD or JS or PA. Training them in OD or JS is quite long, so they could lose the path for a U21. What I meant with combination is that I want to have the right players to fill the single gaps. So big man without PA near the other one with PA in order not to freeze the flow

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Date: 4/15/2018 4:18:22 AM
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[continue...] Or that's why I created 4 models of small fowrards, balanced, internal, external and defensive (if needed I'll write the requirement ). Because if for example the team lacks of external shooters, a small forward like Dino was is necessary. It's a common way of thinking that to play look inside for example you have only to set a lineup with Insider shooters, but that's not true at all.
Because if your flow is not enough against the opponent's OD, your playmaker won't be able to reach the big men and will try to pass the ball to the best Jump shooter available. And if JS is low then the shot will be missed.
Same goes against 2-3 zone or Gdp, whenever your big men are not capable to shoot.

Example: (45401)
Here we had some bad luck because our SF Mezzogori got injured after 2 minutes. Australian big men were better than ours, I hit the right tactic by misleading his prediction, but Belloni was our better Jump shooter, so everytime our PF and C didn't take the shot, the ball went over Belloni, which had the worst Matchup Rating, so we wasted shots.
Another example in Italy's Cup final last season: (100686355)
Superocco team was way better than his opponent's. But he somehow decided to put three big men in SF PF C spots, with only one shooter in PG. The 2-3 set by Mighty Mice made a lot more difficult to reach the Bigs, so the ball went outside and you can see that half of the total Field goals attempted were done by PG and SG (40 over 83).

This is just to provide an example on how a well structured roster can overcome some difficulties

7) I hope so. I'm always confident and even if I know there are some difficulties and problems I can't wait to begin.
My first goal would be to have fun, to carry some enthusiasm in the forum, to help people to come out and live the GILAS together with us. Can't say right now how the future will look like, but I didn't choose you thinking it would have been easy It will require work, so let's do this!

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Date: 4/16/2018 2:46:40 AM
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If that is the case, buona fortuna signore :D

Franco

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