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From: Billy

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Date: 1/5/2014 6:45:53 PM
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Wow, thats a lot of money! I have a level 5 trainer...

There isnt anyone right now worth your troubles. I know a guy who is going to bid to win Tam Moir (31372567) to train him with guidance from me, my brother in law. Hes new to BB and if he goes bot Ill have him sell him. But he will be trained if won by him for sure. We dont have many players to pick from obviously so Im hoping we get a core of trainees and trainers together and then build upon that next draft if possible. I will prolly bid to win a Barbados young stud next season if one becomes avalible.

Worstteamever has been a huge help so far along with thestarks training a stud 18 year old. I have been in contact with several managers that are training U21 NT players each week :-) and the owner of Tam I guess decided to sell him after I asked lol. Mix has been a helpful advice giver for sure, hopfully we get a few wins this year. Im looking at our schdule and with training I think we can improve.

Thanks for the offer to train, I think next season Ill ask for some help! You the man!

Last edited by Billy at 1/5/2014 6:49:43 PM

From: Mix

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Date: 1/5/2014 8:40:09 PM
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@Billy - Moir at 19yo PAS with only 47 skpts isn't much of a long term prospect for helping the NT IMO.

Do you have the TSP/Cap plugin installed from the offsite? It gives you all those totals right away. You can find it on the offsite on the top thread, the third addon down. http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/topic/742754...

If you have local managers working with you then do what you can to help them with the draft. They should be saving max points right now to save the next big time Barbadian.

What's Patterson's (31798612) skills looking like in terms of TSP and what not. That could be a promising NT because of the potential. He comes to market pretty soon.

Last edited by Mix at 1/5/2014 8:57:12 PM

From: Billy

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Date: 1/6/2014 12:01:21 PM
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You know... I agree but to get these few players trained is what we need.

You say something that gives me hope, Patterson coming to market? If his owner goes bot he'll hit the transfer list?

Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: prominent Handling: pitiful
Driving: awful Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: pitiful Inside Def.: average ↑
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: inept Free Throw: pitiful

I think Patterson will make a better trainee than Moir. That OD is is looking nice but he does need more guard skills for sure. I would love to get our hands on him.

From: Billy
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Date: 1/6/2014 6:58:12 PM
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(31798612)

He's up for sale... Any takers? I see someone already bid. I think my brother in law will bid on him instead of Tam Moir. Thoughts?

Last edited by Billy at 1/6/2014 6:59:21 PM

From: Mix

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Date: 1/6/2014 10:08:17 PM
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Ya, I'd be more inclined to focus on Patterson as the keeper, depending on how he can be worked into a training plan. He has the height to go PG/SG/Outside oriented SF. His sums are Cap: 11.62 (24 to 26), Skill Points: 48 (27/21). Which is pretty behind but it's early enough in the season to get him toward 60 TSP by seasons end.

Did you send an alert to Windies about him? He might could do something with him. He is a year behind but that OD is off the charts.

I'm in the negative right now and also train bigs. I do have him bookmarked though and will keep an eye. Great job on cutting down your roster for the long haul.

On your game today, not a bad showing. I'd say Tunna had a decent game if it wasn't for 5 TOs. Interesting that you pulled so many boards from the SF pos. Too bad about that GDP fumble, it could've been closer had you got that and the defensive tactic choice right. I'm interested in next weeks match. Will try to tune in.

I was watching US21 vs. Bahamas. BAH coach ran CT/LI and was crushed by 51 (26920). From the sub pattern seemed like he blank lineup'd it too.

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From: Mix
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Date: 1/8/2014 8:32:41 PM
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Patterson (31798612) going for $290k to a D4 Argentine club. Not bad at all. Who's next up for saves, coach?
:?

Last edited by Mix at 1/8/2014 8:33:02 PM

From: Billy

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Date: 1/8/2014 10:53:28 PM
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Ill be in the chat next game... just fyi. I hope to get some GS pops this week (fingers crossed) and some skill pops... not many came last week. Im looking forward to our next game.

Pattersons' new owner does plan to train his guard skills with some IS. I think he wants to make a balanced player so I replied to his message with a plan to make his training more effective. I hope to hear from him soon.

From: Billy

To: Mix
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Date: 1/9/2014 1:42:13 PM
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Well, we now need someone to step up with some cash... I asked Drew Sharky's owner to put him up for sale at a "decent" price and well... he replied and said he put him up for sale at a "decent" price. 350k! Wow, I don't have that much right now so I can't get in on Drew but he could be trained. He's 20 with a 7 POT.

If you know someone that could get in on Drew and train him at G or SF skills then that'd be cool.

(31372550)

-Billy

From: Mix

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Date: 1/9/2014 6:21:43 PM
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69 TSP isn't bad, some deal breakers from my POV
1) He's never run 48+ all season.
2) His height puts him at a disadvantage for guard training.
3) His OD/ID are pretty soft for a 20yo.
3) Only completed 8 of 19 ASTs. Assist/TO ratio is 0.9.
3) Hasn't made a FT his entire career (marginal importance)

I have to give the trainer credit in that he got him when he was 19. You basically get a season and a half max training with this player for $350k. That seems a lot to ask for IMO for a player that will always be a season behind.

Some highlights for Sharkey are:
1) Only gave up 3 shots scored against him in 35 attempts (22 PP100)
2) Doesn't foul much. Only has 10 PFs in 178 mins. So I wouldn't classify him as aggressive.

IMO, it is more advantageous to get the Barbadian managers loading in max draft points and get them as much information as you can about draft strategy including scouting the 18yo's first so you can get the best potentials out of it.

An 18yo with SS potential or above is a better investment in the time and effort than this player. He'll likely never be much of a factor in U21 matches and isn't likely to make NT. That's not to say he should be cut, but if you're going to contact serious trainers, they either need a more realistic starting price or a younger/higher potential to work with. Great job keeping on top of all this BTW. Not meaning to sound like a buzzkill, just wanting to be real.

Judging by the minutes this season, it looks like Sharkey is no longer a priority. If you compare last seasons mins. to this season they are worlds apart. I can't say I blame him.

I was just contacted about an offer on my Bahamian trainee, Gale-Sewell, who is also no longer in a top training slot. He's sort of in the same boat as this player but about -10 TSP. I paid $290k for him as a 19yo/MVP save on the TL. I'm letting the interested manager make the offer though. If it sounds fair I'll probably take it. There's no expectation either way, he's decent enough to backup my non-training big spot and will receive the tail end of some 2 POS later this season if he stays. I imagine Sharkey may get the same.


Last edited by Mix at 1/9/2014 6:24:02 PM

From: Mix

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Date: 1/9/2014 8:28:23 PM
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You may consider moving this thread to the Barbados I.1 forum so that the local managers can have easy access to it. I'm not sure if they monitor the BB threads.

It would benefit them to have some input or at least access to the discussion.


From: Billy

To: Mix
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Date: 1/9/2014 10:17:46 PM
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I've let all the managers know about this forum a week or so ago.

I agree with ya Mix 350k is much to high for him.

Worstteamever informed me that he gets 4 draft points per week. I haven't heard from thestarks recently though.

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