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Date: 12/26/2010 6:33:01 AM
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Anyone got some good justification for which is better? Of course it depends on how your opponent plays etc, but which provides the higher BBstat?

I'm not overly interested in a lack of evidence.


try the coach parrot, for it he could generate that quite good and use your players skills for that.

But if you look for BBStats totals, the winner is 2-3.

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Date: 12/26/2010 11:46:13 AM
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And, at least for my team, M2M beats 3-2 in terms of BBstat. But 2-3 gives +rebounding and +inside defense, so it's got a leg up in the BBstat race. I haven't run 2-3 in so long and I don't have Coach Parrot here so I can't say for sure that it's the best for team ratings, but it seems like it would be.

Last edited by Peluin at 12/26/2010 11:47:36 AM

From: CrazyEye

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It still depends on your team. If your center is only a mediocre defensive player and rebounder, then 2-3 won't provide as much benefit. Also, if your SF is primarily a perimeter defender, then you'll lose a lot of his benefit to BBStats.



but in really the most cases 2-3 give you the best stats, even when they dont win your games.

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Date: 12/26/2010 1:59:14 PM
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As stated, it mostly depends on the players you have...If your inside players are two beasts (great rebounders and way better Idefenders than your guards are Odefenders), than i guess 3-2 will give you better overall ratings (boost in OD while not loosing that much inside)...However, if your PF and C are not that great, M2M provides more defensive balance...

My 2cents...

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Date: 12/26/2010 3:41:00 PM
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Concerning this thread, I have a question. Suppose I'm playing an opponent that has a super SF but plays a balanced offense (equal inside and outside scoring ratings). Because of the balanced offense I would be tempted to go with a M2M defense, but the problem is the matchup with that SF. Everytime the SF pulls up for a shot, is it just the defensive skills of my SF guarding him that affect his shot? Or does my overall defense ability affect him? I may go to a 3-2 zone just to avoid having the same player guarding him all the time, which also results in foul trouble. Any thoughts?

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Date: 12/26/2010 3:48:13 PM
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a bit of both, you have a head of head comparisions but you also have some "help" defense, one BB sayd it sometimes like that - that when you have an insufficient offense Player his defender will help the teammates cover his men or that a extraordinary offense Player will draw attention of the defender of his teammates and give them more easy shots.

overall i think that this is the teamrating which comes into play.

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Date: 12/26/2010 4:14:36 PM
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It also depends on your opponents...if they have lousy inside players, it makes 3-2 an easier decision. If they have a couple of studs at the post and only play R&G most of the time, then maybe stick with M2M.


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Date: 12/26/2010 9:21:26 PM
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Everytime the SF pulls up for a shot, is it just the defensive skills of my SF guarding him that affect his shot?


You need to read the game narrative to see who is guarding whom during the game. In MtM, this is NOT always SF on SF because the game is realistic and has switches and defensive help. This also happens in all forms of zone. So the other guy team will not always be guarded by his opposite number, to say nothing of the times your backups will be in the game.

Or does my overall defense ability affect him?


If by 'overall defensive ability' you mean your team ratings, you need to understand those team ratings are NEVER used by the game engine. The team ratings are solely informational and calculated according to the formula in the Game Manual. The boost or decrement to ratings described in the Game Manual are applied to the individual ratings during the play of the game.


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Date: 12/26/2010 9:54:25 PM
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I know that there are switches and that sometimes he will be guarded by someone else, or he may drive and run into someone rotating from the other side. But most of the times he will go up against the SF assigned to guard him. And when I say "overall defensive ability" I don't mean ratings, those are like averages from the game. I mean the defensive skills of the other players close by. Let me give you an example. The game play says "Player X pulls up for an outside jumper, guarded closely by player Y". Question is, is it the same if all my other players have OD = 1 or OD = 12?

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