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There will be a national team enthusiasm reset during the offseason between the qualifiers and the World Championships. This reset will occur between 18:00 server time on the Saturday before the 2nd Chance Qualifiers and the start of the 2nd Chance Qualifiers.

It's so simple. Rules are totally clear. The reset could have even occurred 5" before the lineup deadline and I don't see a reason why, in a similar occasion, people should have argued for example that they set the lineup assuming enthusiasms would have been at 1 because it was so one minute before.

But I repeat, at the end of the day, if you're following rules you should not, never, be the one penalized by such an action. If you're taking a different decision, which is legit, assuming conditions will be different than the one written in the rules, it's a bet anyway that could be good or wrong.

Thinking that a bug in the reset wouldn't have been fixed somehow is totally crazy, it's a no return point for the game in any occasion if you leave a bug destroying a tournament. Since that one was the first occasion, you didn't even know which kind of actions Marin would have had. If he could have only replayed games the same day, with ts 5, same lineup etc, there wouldn't have been nothing strange and this would have been perfectly ok if everyone was preparing the games as per the rules.


All that said, I'm totally ok with this solution. No particular problem and I believe is the best solution once GS and schedule are different.

Last edited by GM-samusaran (ITA-Staff) at 8/25/2019 9:17:45 AM

I have to admit that you make me laugh, being so naive...
Sorry next time I'll trust blindly in Marin to do the right thing.
I dont know, maybe its just me with that not trusting him with bugs thing...

Also clrearly Israel was trying to take advantage of this bug, imagine thinking that Israel could beat the powerhouse called Nigeria without a CT vs TIE..

You are just not getting the point.

I've never said a word about taking advantage of others, that's all your speculation or English misunderstanding. I disagree with the idea I quoted: "I surely used CT if my TS was 1" because it makes no sense.

Even considering all the possible option on the table, few could have been that positive about crunching.
1) Replaying all matches automatically with same lineup: would have been better following rules
2) Having the reset at the time of the deadline: would have been better following rules
3) No chance of replaying matches: tough situation. But it wouldn't have been acceptable leaving simply the ent of the reset after different efforts in the first game. Ent could have been potentially changed manually according to the efforts, and I guess most teams wouldn't have been so happy of crunching.
4) No fix at all and no reset at all: potentially good for crunching (even though negative for the worlds itself). Not so likely considering the severity of the bug.

I didn't know which kind of solution Marin was going to use, best scenario is always trying to provide equal opportunities to everyone. But he could have been potentially impossibilitate to do "the right thing". Once there, who do you think it is more fair to "help"? The ones who act as rules are claiming, or the ones who did something different?
And to be clear another time, I'm not calling the second group cheaters or something. You just bet on the fact that Marin was not going to fix anything (and I could understand the fear of Nigeria in those conditions).

I'm not blaming you because you crunched, and I'm reasonably happy with this solution which seems the best at the current moment. But that doesn't mean crunching was "surely" the best idea

This is not a question about having faith in Marin or not, I simply thought at least something would have been done.


Not necessarily equal, not necessarily fair for everyone, cause the options on the table were unknown. But thinking that there would have been no action at all was not an option I really considered. Starting from this, I don't see too many chances why crunching "surely" was so clearly the better choice.

I explained enough by the way, if the counter-argumentations are soo deep I don't see the need of going on

The main thing is to inform all 16 teams that the matches will be repeated.
Otherwise we have new discussions here Wednesday