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you might be able to get away with that in d.IV but the higher divisions have some very serious centers who can kill you if the guards can work the ball in. average to respectable passing would be enough to get the job done.

when i'm playing 3-2 or 1-3-1 the opponent stays normally below 10 TO maybe more around 5-6 ;)

If you try to steal the ball try it with an full court press, which could work out against inside teams, too. To to counter a li with a 3-2 sounds weird, unless the opponent team got crappy Centers and awesome Shooting skills at their guards so that they play with outside focus even when they play inside.

PS: I would train my centers instead of driving.

when i'm playing 3-2 or 1-3-1 the opponent stays normally below 10 TO maybe more around 5-6 ;)

If you try to steal the ball try it with an full court press, which could work out against inside teams, too. To to counter a li with a 3-2 sounds weird, unless the opponent team got crappy Centers and awesome Shooting skills at their guards so that they play with outside focus even when they play inside.

PS: I would train my centers in blocking instead of driving.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/29/2008 2:47:58 PM

Yeah, I did qualify my statement with the emphasis on my D.IV status.

But, I've gotten 20+ STLs with 1-3-1 and 3-2 defense this season. So, umm... I like it for what it is. My inside defense is still stronger than most of my opponents, so that might have something to do with it.

yeah but i would be around 20 steals to with 2-3 ;)

The impact of stealing with 3-2 is pretty lowl,with 1-3-1 i would say there is an ncrease in steals but even this one is slithly(maybe 20%?).

Well, I have to say that I disagree with that statement. ;)

My team is living proof. I trust my perimeter defense to cause steals and keep the ball out of the inside. That said, if I think the opponent has some decent handling/passing, I will play the 2/3.

You must have very nice handling/driving skills your self if you get so many steals..

cant you put some facts here about one of your matches plz.

Being that I am a D.IV team, my handling and driving skills are above the norm for the Division. In general, my outside defense on my 3 starters is Strong, one of them has Strong handling, mediocre driving. Another has Strong driving and mediocre handling. The third is Average and respectable. All three have respectable passing as well.

I am working to train the three of them to have nearly even skills across the board.

With that said. ;) My last game (6332994), my opponent, while not having a great record, does have a decent SF and PF. After scouting his games, I felt his outside players took care of the ball, so I opted to increase my inside defense and let my outside players keep his guards in check. I played 2-3 against his RnG. I played TIE and he Normal, I had 8 enthusiasm for the game, he had a 5. Looking at the game, it was his two best players that scored the most and his outside players were held in check (scoring wise). His assist numbers were slightly higher than I expected and my steal numbers were lower than I had hoped for.

Overally, my strategy worked, but the numbers did not support my theory if my outside guys keeping the ball out of the middle. I wonder how things would have been different if I used a 3-2 or a 1-3-1 instead. ;)

Last edited by Mortons at 10/7/2008 12:08:29 PM

Overally, my strategy worked, but the numbers did not support my theory if my outside guys keeping the ball out of the middle. I wonder how things would have been different if I used a 3-2 or a 1-3-1 instead. ;)

None of these wouldve been in question if you normalled and didnt TIE.

TIE dramatically reduces your defensive effectiveness and all but gives a slightly weaker opponent a wide open door to walk through.

I would opt to use TIE when you are CERTAIN of a victory OR when you feel your opponent will concede he is weaker and then TIE OR when you really need to save enthusiasm for a more important upcoming fixture.

I wouldnt beat yourself up about the outcome of one match - the enthusiasm has influenced the result far more than your tactical decisions.

Being that I am a D.IV team, my handling and driving skills are above the norm for the Division. In general, my outside defense on my 3 starters is Strong, one of them has Strong handling, mediocre driving. Another has Strong driving and mediocre handling. The third is Average and respectable. All three have respectable passing as well.

I am working to train the three of them to have nearly even skills across the board.

With that said. ;) My last game (633294), my opponent, while not having a great record, does have a decent SF and PF. After scouting his games, I felt his outside players took care of the ball, so I opted to increase my inside defense and let my outside players keep his guards in check. I played 2-3 against his RnG. I played TIE and he Normal, I had 8 enthusiasm for the game, he had a 5. Looking at the game, it was his two best players that scored the most and his outside players were held in check (scoring wise). His assist numbers were slightly higher than I expected and my steal numbers were lower than I had hoped for.

Overally, my strategy worked, but the numbers did not support my theory if my outside guys keeping the ball out of the middle. I wonder how things would have been different if I used a 3-2 or a 1-3-1 instead. ;)

i think you linked wrong game... then if you have played 3-2 or 1-3-1 you had won a greater victory!

your out def is almost as high as his out off...so you stop alot of attacks..

then with your PTB you get many points and win the game....

winning has nothing to do with your question about stealing..(handling/driving)

i think you linked wrong game... then if you have played 3-2 or 1-3-1 you had won a greater victory!

I did, forgot an important digit. ;)

(6332994)


My outside defense in the 2-3 was sufficient to shut his RNG down. I feel like the greater the disparity of Perimeter defense over Opp offensive flow and outside scoring, the more steals you get. That is all I am saying.

i think you linked wrong game... then if you have played 3-2 or 1-3-1 you had won a greater victory!

I did, forgot an important digit. ;)

(6332994)


My outside defense in the 2-3 was sufficient to shut his RNG down. I feel like the greater the disparity of Perimeter defense over Opp offensive flow and outside scoring, the more steals you get. That is all I am saying.

so with other words... if you should have played 3-2 or 1-3-1 you would have got a greater disparity and got more steals