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144111.6 in reply to 144111.5
Date: 5/16/2010 7:38:34 PM
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ah okay thanks.
Could you explain in more detail the differences between low post and look inside? From what you said it seems that look inside will try and get your center and power forward to take most of the shots, but are happy to let others take shots too. Is low post harder to play properly than look inside? When would you play one and when would you play the other?
So based on the shooting guard's skills, would you recommend playing low post, look inside, push the ball, run and gun or a different tactic?

Please keep in mind that I have 3 good powerforwards/center but this shooting guard is my only good guard.


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On a seperate note, what are your thoughts on a 1-3-1 zone vs a 3-2 zone? The team I am playing next game is almost certainly going to play a 2-3 zone and a Run and Gun offence. My inside defence and inside attack is good, but my outside defence and outside attack is very bad (OD = respectable at point guard, proficient at shooting guard and inept at small forward) (and my only good outside shooter is the one listed here). So would you recommend playing a 1-3-1 zone (My center has tremendous rebounding), or would you play a 3-2 zone?

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144111.7 in reply to 144111.6
Date: 5/16/2010 8:33:17 PM
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Hmm...You are opening again a large subject. Based on my experience again i will try to answer. Dont take them as a fact again, the possibility to be wrong is big.

I will show you 2 games of me that shows the deferences between LI and LP. 1st is LP. (21474770). As you can see here, the majority of the opponents shots taken by his big men, but in general the 3pt shooting wasnt that much.

2nd LI. (21474853) The majority of his shots taken by his PG/SG/SF. I knew what he would play against me given the last seasons finals. I chose to stop his guards since i knew that they cant score inside. I knew also that my big men would be on early foul troubles since i chose 3-2 zone against him. I knew also that his guards using that tactic will take lots of shots. With 3-2 against inside tactics you dont only stop the guards but also you are exploding the bad passing from the guards, so you force them to take bad shots.

What is harder to play? i cant say. It depend on your squat. I just tried to explain the deferences.

Neutral tactics. As moutlinho said (70514) you are using them when you are the superior team to avoid the surprise but is not recommended when the teams are equal or you are trying to steal a game.

1-3-1 vs 3-2. I will show you an other game of mine from my last seasons championship run. (20324507). He gave up the only real advantage that he had against me. Rebounding. Against me with man to man: (2032450).

Conclusion 1-3-1 is a desperation move, or wise when you are clearly superior inside, and you can cover the rebounding problem.

Again what is best? you have your choices you have to decide.

Edit: A fact is that if you want to make inside tactics to work properly you need strong passing from PG/SG/SF, good IS from SF, and in general good IS from the guards.

Last edited by JohnnyB at 5/16/2010 8:37:35 PM

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144111.8 in reply to 144111.7
Date: 5/16/2010 9:40:32 PM
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The first link you have is for a game that is playing look inside not low post.
Also, the last link you have is for a game that doesn't involve your team (the man to man link).
Pretty sure you have accidentally linked something wrong here :P

Thanks for the information.
Well the reason I was considering a 1-3-1 zone is because I am clearly superior in rebounding, and he is not very good offensively on the inside. But he has decent outside scoring, so am I better of playing a 3-2 zone? I am, in my opinion, a far superior team to the team I am playing. And I am probably going to win regardless of what defence I play, but I was thinking of trying out the 1-3-1 zone just to see if it is better against a Run and Gun. What do you think?

At a div 3 level what do you consider good passing for inside tactics? Do I need better passing for Low post than look inside? My SF, PF and C have good IS. My guards do not have good IS. Passing levels of guards and SF are ranging from 1 strong to 1 mediocre with 1 average and 1 respectable as well. Is that high enough passing?

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144111.9 in reply to 144111.8
Date: 5/16/2010 11:53:43 PM
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yo check out my last game naker .

i ran a 1-3-1 / look inside against a team which im far better then but they have 2 pure shooters.

i still won the rebounding quite easily, and his main shooters while they scored a butt load i did cause them to shoot worse then they do in almost all of the previous games this season. (note i also took it easy)

my question to you would be if your going to run a 1-3-1 whats your pf's outside def like?
if its not good your prob better sticking to 3-2.

hopefully this post gave you some insight


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144111.10 in reply to 144111.9
Date: 5/17/2010 12:11:25 AM
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Hey,
My powerforward OD is only on mediocre, so nothing great.
I'll probably just stick to a 3-2 zone because I am almost certain I will win playing this, and I will try the 1-3-1 zone in PL matches.
Thanks

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144111.12 in reply to 144111.11
Date: 5/22/2010 3:52:16 AM
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In most other defenses the SG weighs heavily on outside defense and the PG and SF only moderately.

What are you basing this on? I thought the PG would be weighed just as heavily as the SG is, maybe even better. (i agree on SF though)


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