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Two things.

The question when looking to add SB to a trainee is and has always been what skill/skills to punt and how much.

What do you mean by "skills to punt"?

So if you want IS your back at square one looking at what skill to cut again.

What offence do you run without IS? Where do you get your offence from without IS? This is considering that LI is the preferred attack.

I have had some success with II, though I'll probably be shot down for mentioning it.

Actually, no, that's not what it means. Obviously you don't get conf-

Haha! Just kidding. Thanks heaps. Good explanation. +1

I'm sure you could make the case that missing the chances on your shots also could be enough to encourage you to build high rebounding, but i would much rather have a player that can shoot and defend/block before i worry about creating a better rebounding player in the hopes of collecting the shots missed.

The way I've always considered it is that Rebounding, Handling and Passing are all "possession" skills, in that if you have a major hole in one of them, you will give your opponents extra possessions and therefore more chances to score (either via failing to collect rebounds or via turnovers). OD is the other stat that can help with possession, as it is used for steals. In the long run, the path to success defensively is to not only minimize the opponent's points per possession, but to also try to minimize the number of possessions they have relative to yours.

Man, John Hollinger over here.

You may or may not have to "punt" a skill on a player. In D.IV, i might have to chop some IS or some REB to get a higher SB. But if i believe that a higher SB leads to enough blocks, and as i said in my previous post i believe personally that blocks have a higher percentage chance of being rebounded by the blocking player currently in the game engine (unproven, but my belief) then i am more likely to build closer to a 13/15/13/15 type of build, which is a bit more expensive than the salary range you are going for, but should be cheap enough. If i'm moving up the chain faster, then someone in the 85-90k range for completion is realistic, and will still fit under most 8 potential caps, so you could push up either defensively or offensively further depending on who you are.

i dont see why you should just be saticfied with running one type of offense.

Because LI is the most bestest?

I could look at your 26-27 season or you could just tell me!! Especially because I don't know what skills your players had back then.

I'm actually keen to know so if you would share, I would be grateful.

My old SB players had a very reasonable salary for the level I was at when they were capped. 76, 81 and 105k. And all of them had triple 17 or higher in ID/RB/SB.

Out of curiosity, what percentage of BB teams have three players all triple 17 or higher in ANY skills? 2%? 4%? 1%? Is there even a SINGLE player in most USA Div IV leagues with three 17's? As just one example, I am playing in the finals of my Div IV, and there is just ONE player on my team with ONE skill of 17 or above (plus one legendary free throw shooter). Just TWO of your players salaries add up to mote than the average TEAM salary in my league all season long.
You guys crack me up, having your oh-so-serious conversations about your big teams, when 95% of BB teams are nothing like that.
Seriously, I sometimes wonder if that isn't a factor in the decline in participation in BB, in that the vast majority of managers are pretty much shut out of the serious conversations about game strategy by the fact that what is discussed is light years away from what they know their own teams to be.

EDIT: I went back and looked at this comment that caused such a shiite-storm, and really, it's pretty reasonable and nothing to get excited about. I see why nobody disputed the points I raised. What's wrong with you guys that you cannot look at a bit of constructive criticism? Maybe we need a symbol on some of the forum threads, a big red "X" for threads that only apply to the top leagues. It would save the vast majority of managers a lot of time reading stuff that is just pie in the sky to them, totally irrelevant to the leagues they are playing in.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 7/31/2015 11:50:33 PM