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191170.57 in reply to 191170.56
Date: 8/11/2011 5:41:09 AM
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I agree

Interesting to see what a real conteder like DAS does now

Going to be hard for him to support his expensive roster with a tiny stadium and no cup income

Speaking of no income from the cup, I've just seen the draw for my teams next cup game

Double Bugger what a horror draw for HA

Makes matters worse is that the upcoming opponents 2 league games previous to playing HA are against a soon to be bot and what appears to be a tanker

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 8/12/2011 6:44:04 AM

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191170.58 in reply to 191170.57
Date: 8/12/2011 2:26:23 AM
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Hey all i didnt realise we had a league full of people talking this season!

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191170.59 in reply to 191170.58
Date: 8/13/2011 2:09:36 AM
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yeah its a nice change isn't it

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191170.60 in reply to 191170.59
Date: 8/13/2011 8:20:34 AM
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Sure is!

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191170.61 in reply to 191170.60
Date: 8/14/2011 7:14:18 AM
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Hi Tremell

Am I right to deduce that you are tanking the season?

If you are I'm curious as to the logic and what your plans are

Given that you know the strengths of the long time managers in this league, I'm curious as to who you think the 3 or 4 are who are who are most likely to be in line for promotion at the end of this season.

A lot of intrancancies such as roster, financial capabilities, experience etc to be considered

Melbourne Redbacks and Nevada Saucers both look very capable on all levels

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 8/14/2011 7:42:56 AM

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191170.62 in reply to 191170.61
Date: 8/14/2011 7:41:57 AM
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Hey Sid

Yeah spot on mate im tanking this season and will be headed overboard to div3 after this season....If lara doesnt get on to set a team though i might be lucky to get a relegation series and more money before i go down which would be a bonus!

My logic behind it is that my cash reserves and players and potential moves going forward were exhausted (i had a good 2 seasons towards the top but was unlucky and got roadblocked when my window was open) so when i started last season 10-3 but could see i wasnt going to win the whole thing i decided it was time to pull the pin then and get a good 1.5 seasons training in before i hit div3. Also i was too one dimensional towards the end of my best team before i sold up, so i realise i need to create a more flexible and less predictable lineup so thats basically the plan haha.

As far as potential teams to win the whole thing this season its still very early so a lot can change. However i would say you can rule a line through probably 11 of the teams right now. Here are my top 5 battling for it all.....

Great 8
Drunken All-Stars - Great allround team, has slowly been building up and is possibly peaking at just the right time. Possibly not tested in enough big finals games though.
SJOD - SJOD is the sleeper of the league. He is another that has been in the league basically the same amount of time as myself but has consistently the last 2 seasons just concentrated on his cup run/training and done enough to avoid relegation. I put him on the list because i know he has significant cash reserves from all his time floating around 6th-7th and with a 3-2 start he may just dip into his funds late in the season and make a run.
South Brisbane Vultures - Obviously unlucky a couple of seasons ago to come down from abbl and then ran into Zazz in the final. A finals tested team so if you were a betting man and wanted a safe bet on who will get out of the great 8 to the finals he is probably that bet atm.

Big 8
Glenelg Tigers - He is someone ive spoken to on here and seems like a good guy. On what i believe is the weaker side of the draw atm. I think if he makes the final he will still struggle to make abbl but who knows what his plans are to improve.
hopelessly addicted - Yourself haha. Your back from abbl and may have some tricks up your sleeve imo towards the end of the season. Also your on the "weaker big 8" side. When i say weaker the big 8 has 8 teams that can win games just not many would actually win the promotion final imo. Great 8 has a very deep top 4.


Apologies to:
Melbourne Redbacks - The team i beat to promote all that time ago from div3! He has come out of the very hard III.6 but i see him as more of a danger in the next 1-3 seasons. Sorry
Nevada Saucers - Highly ranked last season and a personal fav of mine i still cant imagine nevada making the final for some reason. Hope he proves me wrong but he has only had that one good season last season and i think teams like DAS and SJOD (if he ponies up some cash) will have passed him by.




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191170.63 in reply to 191170.62
Date: 8/14/2011 8:02:13 AM
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Interesting anaylsis.

I had Melbourne Redbacks and Nevada Saucers picked because of their depth in roster, cash flow & reasonable sized stadiums

Glenelg Tigers certainly have cash flow and a decent sized stadium.

SJOD is interesting in that he obviously has money in the bank but at the moment his roster IMO is not all that strong.

DAS is currently losing about 100K a week by my calculations

SB Voultures finances might not be that sound, they appear to be losing money and have never bitten the bullet to expand their stadium - but certainly have experience on their side

Not sure which side of the draw is best to be on. Likes of Nevada must be laughing - TV game and rival was Lara Giants- easy win with no waste of enthusiam.

Youself tanking and Lara Giants doing whatever his doing should make it easier for teams in that side of the draw to have great enthusiam levels which should aid them in the crossover games

HA will have to choose what games to use enthusiam on and have an almost impossible cup game this week.

Fan Survey and consequently gates will take a pounding because HA can't win all of these games during the next 2 weeks.

Lara Giants could turn everytning on its ear with a spending spree.

HAs first goal is to finish his stadium which by doing so will affect his short term capabilities on entering into a spending spree.

HA will also be selling some big name players towards the end of this season if he is convinced he can't promote

Anything can happen should one Manager be lucky enough to make some good sales and purchases at the right time.

Through no fault of the Manager, injuries can cripple the best managed team at the worst time

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 8/14/2011 8:13:14 AM

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191170.64 in reply to 191170.63
Date: 8/14/2011 8:15:21 AM
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Very good read as well! Have a ball :-)

I just have this gut feeling about nevada that they cant do it hey i cant explain it. However Ros was always a big supporter of my team when i was playing monkey in big games a couple of seasons ago so i feel very bad writing him off. Maybe he will prove me wrong!

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191170.65 in reply to 191170.64
Date: 8/14/2011 8:19:55 AM
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I've stated before that I'm not a fan of his posts but that said I rate his smarts.

Has a decent stadium, a good balanced deep roster, cash flow and seems to have an understanding of the game.

Same reasons I rate Redbacks.

Glenelg Tigers have massive massive cash flow probably around the 120k per week depending on what they are spending on staff

DAS and SB Voultures are currently both losing money by my calculations



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191170.66 in reply to 191170.65
Date: 8/14/2011 8:28:47 AM
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Yeah just looking at the arenas it is amazing how well SBV did making ABBL with only a 9000 seat arena. Really the only good sized arenas in the league seem to be yourself, Redbacks (agreed they are going to be ubber dangerous in a couple of seasons), myself and broometime. DAS and nevada and glenelg still arent huge arenas, they are around the level i was at before i started tanking.

Whats you goal for arena size Sid? I thinking 22k.

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191170.67 in reply to 191170.66
Date: 8/14/2011 8:36:43 AM
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First stop will be 20,002

The stadium will have a breather at 19,771 seats in about 2 weeks time, to assess what its final configeration will be

Will be One of the following

17171 17071 17071
2222 2332 2442
565 555 656
44 44 33

20,002 20,002 20,202

Hurt me in the ABBL only having the 14 or so thousand seats

If I ever make it back to the ABBL I will then reassess the size and might consider going to the 22 K mark

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