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Date: 1/14/2011 5:30:17 AM
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TT has been getting single position training from day 1, with only two weeks not on primaries. Hope that this extra season will give him a boost in experience to help him be a force next season, but yeah, I am looking forward to training guards one day!

From: mllama

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For what its worth, the team isn't finalised yet

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and I do agree that the focus on rounded big men hasn't really been all that positive for the U21s. Its nice to have some PFs, but not every player.

Seems like most of the big men coming through are p allstar, which really isn't conducive to awesome U21 centres.

On the plus side, our guard crop this season is one of our best, I wouldn't say its a 'weak' team, just built differently

We'll see how it goes.

From: iwen

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It also doesn't help when none of the active managers can draft a good player at all. For 3-4 seasons now.

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Didn't you just draft a good player? or aren't you active?

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I drafted a PG. =P

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Date: 1/14/2011 7:11:18 AM
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whats happened to the markets?
back in the day he woulve went for 2-3 mil

now cant even get 1 mil

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You know what happened to the markets! With the constant tidal wave of free agents hitting each week it has become worth a lot less to train guys. I have seen 21 year olds with multiple sensational skills going for $500,000. Why spend millions on a guy, then train him for several seasons when you can pick up the end product cheaper?

I confess I have benefitted from the free agents too. Picked up a couple of bigs who would have cost 2 million two seasons ago for 1/2 a million each.

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Date: 1/14/2011 9:10:59 AM
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Yeah, right about when Mllama started managing the U21 we lacked quality multi skilled players in the national team. I guess our emphasis on multi skilled players have meant that the U21 hasn't had those mono skilled players coming up as frequently.

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Date: 1/15/2011 4:42:09 AM
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The one and only problem with multi skilled big men as far as the U21 squad goes is kind of the problem that SFs have in the early stages. Early seasons are kind of slow without any major strengths but if you keep at it and train well, you see big pay off in the later years...

I agree with that 100%. I bought a 6'11 SG to train as a multi skilled big and I can assure you it is painstaking. His lowest secondary is mediocre passing and everything else is respectable or above which for a 20 yo is fantastic, but it has taken 2 seasons for his primaries to catch up to the same level. The problem with that is it has made it virtually impossible to get him up to speed for the U/21s and his potential isn't high enough for seniors...

I believe the way I am training is slower and more effective for the end result of what I need to suit my teams goals, but it is 1 less active manager with an U/21 prospect since I cant see him reaching that level in time. If I went for an 18 yo with all respectable primaries he would most likely be considered for the squad as a 20 yo, but would be a waste of the player I want for my teams set up in the long run.



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but you would also get less maximum "peak period" out of him since once he is done, he will be older than alot of other "completed/capped" trainees and you couldnt get as many years in term of performance. if your looking to sell him off for profit as well.

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