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... agreement all the way around, although we all have a different way of stating it.

Man every time I tell myself to quit responding, you make another post I just can't ignore. Quit trying to rewrite history....Nobody is agreeing with what you are saying. There are tiny parts of what you might say that fits into a bigger statement where there might be a shred of common ground..but at the end of the day...there is not one veteran coach in this forum that agrees with your assessments and does not think your views are detrimental to new people trying to learn this game.

Bottom line for New Players in this game:

1. Building your arena is absolutely a must, and a positive thing if you plan to have longevity in this game.

2. Always build your arena so that you are at least 1 division ahead of in your arena compared to where you are now. There is a lot of money to be made when promoting and when your Arena is big enough to handle the increase you are sure to see in the next division up.

3. There are multiple ways to have success in this game, so you do not pick any one way like it's the one and only way to do it..but that said, for every one way to be successful, there are at least 10 ways to screw things up!

4. Buy players who fit your tactics, or play tactics that fit your players.

5. If you still don't feel like you are gaining enough ground in this game...find a mentor. And find a mentor who has proven success in this game who will truly steer you in the right direction and not add to your confusion.

... agreement all the way around, although we all have a different way of stating it.

Man every time I tell myself to quit responding, you make another post I just can't ignore.

I found quotes to show areas of agreement to end the argument, but you seem to want to keep the argument going. So, which of those quotes do you disagree with?

Last edited by Mike Franks at 8/24/2015 12:29:45 AM

You may have an ugly logo, but you make a lot of sense! haha

Hey! I put all my paint skills and probably as much as 5 minutes to make that wonderful logo

LOL, it's way better than what i could have done for myself :-) I had to have my son design mine!

Irrelevant to those for whom the purpose of players is winning games, not profiteering.

I understand that may be a minority, but some of us still look at winning games as the point of a sports sim.

The problem I see with your view is that it isn't about winning games, but winning championships/promotion.There is no value in having a good win/loss ratio and being runner up season after season if the teams who are below you are setting themselves up for a more realistic shot at promotion. You just become stagnant and deny yourself of the chance to compete at the next level. Hence why the seats that seem illogical in div4 are a godsend when you're at the next level trying to be profitable to stay at the next level.

Yes, I agree with you that enough arena (and enough horses) is necessary to stay at the next level when you promote. That could mean enough arena to promote plus enough cash on hand to make your arena worthy of the next level. That way, if you don't promote as planned you have the cash to put to better use if the opportunity arises. At any rate, we have come a long way from the start of this thread,

2. Build as much as you can as fast as you can.

BTW, the other arena-building thread is still interesting. The "build as much as you can as fast as you can" guy keeps digging himself a deeper and deeper hole, not ever realizing Bernspin owns him with every post.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 8/24/2015 10:54:06 AM

This whole discussion in pretty pointless, but I'll get to that later.

Now, bottom line:

1. Building your arena is a safest path, your team is steadily improving.

2. Strengthening your team instead, can be a faster path, because you improve results\promote and could earn more money even with a smaller arena, which will then bring you cash to improve arena as well.

But option 2 is also riskier, because if you don't know what you're doing, your team may stagnate.

I said before that this discussion is pointless anyway, that's because it's really not hard to build your arena.

...save until you have enough money to win the b3 IMO...

A lofty and honorable goal indeed. And not relevant to any mid- level or lower-level team.

THere is nothing lost by building seats.

This completely false assertion can be repeated only by someone with no clue of what opportunity cost is. This may help:
"DEFINITION of 'Opportunity Cost'
1. The cost of an alternative that must be forgone in order to pursue a certain action. Put another way, the benefits you could have received by taking an alternative action."

You may google "opportunity cost" if you still don't understand how it applies to the money lost building empty seats versus how it could have been put to an alternative action, for example buying players or a better trainer. Only when there is absolutely nothing else to do with your money is the opportunity cost zero, although I would suppose that even then some would argue that options lost is an opportunity cost, too.