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Date: 1/14/2011 1:59:46 AM
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Our big men talent keep getting worse while our guards have been improving since I've started this game.

From: SplitJ
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Date: 1/14/2011 2:20:12 AM
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maybe because everyone keep yapping about how big man sucks, they are not worth as much as guard and if the big man have no secondaries means he will be worth less than peanuts...

this either make people:

1. dont train bigs at all and train guards
2. train bigs in secondaries even the big have no secondaries to begin which make the player much crappier than just monoskilled it.

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Date: 1/14/2011 2:22:00 AM
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Wow.. Not that I followed the U21 but I just had a look at the team and this is really disappointing. Best C has like 5x atrocious and there are like 35k 21 year old Cs in there.


Might be best to keep specific talk of the team to the offsite forum where it's a little less public ;)

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Date: 1/14/2011 4:24:34 AM
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I know of at least two players who created multi-skilled bigs who can do everything, but who are obviously behind in the core skills of IS/ID/RE, in the belief that that was what the team wanted, versitile big men, and now neither of those guys is on the team.

I have never trained bigs so I know nothing but is a big with 3 x tremendous and the rest atrocious really better than a big with 3 x prolific and the rest respectable?

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Date: 1/14/2011 4:50:27 AM
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I trained Mahmood, and i put a bit of time[around half a season] into getting JS and OD up to something reasonable at the cost of his big man skills and that was by request by mllama, which i agree needed to be done

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Date: 1/14/2011 5:03:41 AM
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The one and only problem with multi skilled big men as far as the U21 squad goes is kind of the problem that SFs have in the early stages. Early seasons are kind of slow without any major strengths but if you keep at it and train well, you see big pay off in the later years so well rounded big men might only be suitable for the U21 team when they're 21 or the later stages of the season when they're 21 but would be much better prospects for the senior team (and produce better for your own team as well) than mono skilled big men (assuming the potential allows them to train that far).

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Date: 1/14/2011 5:17:32 AM
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Mahmood is fantastic (I got him his first pop!) and is one of the best 21 year old big men in Australia. You have done a brilliant job with him! Perhaps the others spent too long on the secondary skills getting passing, OD and JS up too high at the expense of their core skills. You have done a fantastic job!

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Date: 1/14/2011 5:30:17 AM
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TT has been getting single position training from day 1, with only two weeks not on primaries. Hope that this extra season will give him a boost in experience to help him be a force next season, but yeah, I am looking forward to training guards one day!

From: mllama

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Date: 1/14/2011 6:27:17 AM
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For what its worth, the team isn't finalised yet

From: mllama

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Date: 1/14/2011 6:30:50 AM
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and I do agree that the focus on rounded big men hasn't really been all that positive for the U21s. Its nice to have some PFs, but not every player.

Seems like most of the big men coming through are p allstar, which really isn't conducive to awesome U21 centres.

On the plus side, our guard crop this season is one of our best, I wouldn't say its a 'weak' team, just built differently

We'll see how it goes.

From: iwen

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Date: 1/14/2011 6:46:35 AM
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It also doesn't help when none of the active managers can draft a good player at all. For 3-4 seasons now.

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