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Date: 10/25/2018 11:52:23 AM
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And then. Please explain any differences if any between man and zone for your positions when it comes to defense
Lineup preferences, It changes for every offensive playbook and lineup management. I believe I know all of them and have used them correctly most of the time.



That is as vague and non committal as one can get.

So smart guy... Mister "I took trig but can't conjugate a verb' answer the question....I tell you what I will answer the question


M2m is best used if you feel you have guys who matchup well. IE a guard with strong OD vs a guard who does most of his damage outside. But if your like my team in that your best outside defenders can get taken down low then you want to use zone so that the likelihood of a shot being defended by the best possible defender is more likely to occur.

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Date: 10/25/2018 11:57:15 AM
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Still not ideally how i’d Like the question answered... but this is significantly, significantly, closer to the answers I had in mind that I would be seeing.

I was more looking for something like
“In man 15 OD and 7 ID is great for SG and the SB doesn’t really matter, but in zone i’d Go for like 16 OD and the ID is less important...”
And then whatever the say or feel about SB at that point too

Mayhaps the fault is mine for not being “specific enough” in my question:
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296456.53 in reply to 296456.52
Date: 10/25/2018 12:07:34 PM
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Here's one for ya. What is more easily achieved, a strong defensive build or a strong offensive build. And which is more valuable in a u21 setting.

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Date: 10/25/2018 12:08:38 PM
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Europeans go for all star skill sets. We can never compete at the under 21 level until we focus more on creating the same type of player.

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Date: 10/25/2018 12:15:49 PM
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Yes I took advance trigonomentry in high school. That's why I was a 6.0 GPA. My current college player could've also been a 6.0 GPA and took classes at IT Irish Technology school and could've raised the bell line at ECU in general.

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Date: 10/25/2018 12:18:40 PM
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Being really good at math is suppose to fix English mistakes.

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Date: 10/25/2018 2:28:08 PM
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You don’t have to listen to every manager, but every manager has a right to speak their mind.

@JK - It's ironic you'd be presenting this considering the Discord operates nothing like that.

@Thread - One of the major problem with the national teams in my opinion was that our rosters were leaked for both teams. Following a cataclysmic event of B3 fanboying (arguably treason) our DB ended up in the hands of what was to become a disgruntled foreign coach running our NT. He fell out with the chatterbox and ran for another major NT program the following season.

@Candidates - With the advent of the Youth Trainer skill point targets will increase. How do you approach standardizing the addition of the secondary staff? The cost can be signficant, especially to the lower division managers. The benefits are also not well known as the data appears to still be accumulating.



Last edited by Mixx at 10/25/2018 2:34:29 PM

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Date: 10/25/2018 3:11:07 PM
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2 people can't have the same qualities

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The Youth Trainer is a game changer, and as you said we're still figuring out the full extent of those changes. There are rumors of Chinese players have 18-20s on their bigs to start the season. In terms of standardizing having a YT, I think that would be hard to do simply due to cost, especially in lower divisions, much in the same way regular trainer levels aren't really dictated besides Advanced(lvl 4) being the minimum that can typically get a guy on the team. It is advantageous for both the U21 and the manager to use a YT for quicker skill development just like it is better for getting pops by having a higher level trainer.

One of the new staff members that should be standardized and I believe it has been for a number of players is the Sports Psychologist. With our bad luck for Game Shape and just how fickle the coding seems to be, we need to take every advantage to maximize GS on a weekly basis and that's what this staff member does. To me, having a Sports Psychologist or not could be the difference between two similar players making the team, with all else between their managers being equal.

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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