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From: Knecht

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Date: 8/11/2015 5:52:51 AM
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Yeah I suppose that a freshly drafted player with atrocious exp will take a lot more questionable shots then what a 30+ yo player will do.


To me XP is almost useless, I don't think there is any evidence, that the shot selection of older players is significantly better.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Knecht

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Date: 8/11/2015 8:28:04 AM
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And exactly what data are you backing up those words with? Care to share it with us?


I won't share my observations in detail, as there is really no need to do so. XP one of the lesser, not to say useless "skills", thats it.

But maybe I am totally wrong. Do you have any data to back up your words? Would you share please?

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Knecht

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Date: 8/11/2015 3:32:49 PM
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I'm not a big fan in any way of "because I say so" arguments.


Then why do you go on to tell me its the other way because YOU say so. Makes no sense at all.

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From: Knecht

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Date: 8/12/2015 2:47:13 AM
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what the creators of the game have said.

That's not really what I said though.


...and FT-skill cannot drop. I guess the creators - that haven't been seen here for the last few years - have said many things that are somewhat cryptic and from my experience those statements can be a bit misleading too.

But to put my money where my mouth is, I will pay a full year of supporter to anybody who can prove that increasing XP has a significant influence on a players shot quality. This offer is valid until the end of September.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Date: 8/12/2015 7:13:45 PM
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Here's a NT game regarding USA where a player was solely dressed due to his FT and EXP. I think his EXP played a big part in the play.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/15427/reportmatch.aspx?...

From: Balev

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272688.14 in reply to 272688.5
Date: 8/14/2015 5:27:13 PM
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You made the first claim, though. That's why you were asked for evidence.

Also, there was an "ask a BB day" not so long ago. Maybe they aren't the creators or maybe they are. I don't know. Still a pretty cool idea. Not many games where you get that...

I enjoyed reading the opinions from everyone. Thank you all for your input into my question.

Last edited by Balev at 8/14/2015 5:27:57 PM

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Date: 8/14/2015 7:39:20 PM
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I tend to be on Knecht's side on this. I think there is no strong evidence that higher XP does lead to fewer dumb choices in crunch time. Nor does stamina for that matter, but there is evidence of high stamina team consistently coming back strong in 4th quarters. I'm sure it's used in the GE as it says in the Game Manual, but it may have a rather low impact.

In my last game (cup game against the leading team in my conference) the following players particularly caught my eye in crunch time:
SG: Prominent experience, fouls away from the ball while in the bonus
SF: Prolific experience, turnovers, fouls away from the ball while in the bonus, tough unassisted shots
Backup C: Proficient experience a nice sequence of 3 possessions where, in order, he had an offensive foul, the he commited a foul away from the ball early in the shot clock who puts us in the bonus and finally had a turnover. One right after the other
My opponent's PF: He's 27, he torched me all game and played around 12 minutes with 5 fouls defending at least 6 possessions. He finally fouled out with 2 minutes to go, on a non-shooting foul.

Note I say all this while I've also witnessed this kind of comeback in a playoff tie-breaker where experience might have mattered...
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/78735403/reportmatch.as...

Last edited by Lemonshine at 8/14/2015 7:40:32 PM

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