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154930.5 in reply to 154930.4
Date: 9/1/2010 10:10:16 AM
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Date: 9/1/2010 11:31:04 AM
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Poor guys... :-(

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Date: 9/7/2010 5:24:54 AM
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I started this post, because I think it would be fun to re-mix the teams in a league into different Big-8/Great-8 sets. I do not see many people agreeing with this. This thread has been pretty quiet.

I do note several things, now that I have thought a bit more about it and seen your reactions:

1: There are leagues which are much worse off then my own league.
2: If we were to involve some sort of random process to mix teams up, the result would probably be worse. I think a random process would yield more leagues with bad team alignment. The normal process automatically will re-align itself, although it will take several seasons to do that.
3: If you're in a strong Big/Great-8, there's more challenge to get to the top and eventually you will get there.

4: The process for mixing should probably go like this:

a: Order the list of teams in a league in the same manner as for the draft
b: Team 1 from this list goes to Big-8
c: Team 2 and 3 go to Great-8
d: Team 4 and 5 go to Big-8
e: Team 6 and 7 go to Great-8
etc.

This should not be very hard to implement. And it will re-align the strong and weak teams more evenly in just 1 season.

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154930.10 in reply to 154930.9
Date: 9/7/2010 7:32:14 AM
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sounds good to me

From: Airwin66

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154930.12 in reply to 154930.11
Date: 9/7/2010 3:37:55 PM
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There will always be tears. But I think my suggestion will decrease the flow of tears, and will also make a season a bit more interesting.

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154930.14 in reply to 154930.12
Date: 9/8/2010 9:41:07 PM
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There will always be tears no matter what you do. Two or three seasons is a short timespan, the game is supposed to be played in the long term.
From my observation, there are game mechanisms already that will 'correct' an unbalanced league. Swapping 3 or 4 teams in a conference is one and completely redraws the equilibrium.

Let's see your own league, here is a breakdown of past winners :

s12 : big8
s11, s10 : great8
s9 : big 8
s8 : great8
s7 : big8
s6 : great8
s5 : big8
s4, s3 : great8
s2 : big8

It seems remarkably even to me. You know the saying, if it works, don't fix it !

About playing the same teams over, on the contrary, because of the leagues structure, there is a high turnover of teams.
Let's look at your league again. You were promoted on s11, let's see how many teams are still there since s10 : only 2 in big8 and 3 in great8.
Things change, the game is not frozen only a bit slow paced.

Sleet, don't be so defeatist, cheer up ;)
Your big8 had a champion on season 10, not that long ago.
If you're doing a better job than other managers to improve your team, there is no reason you won't beat them whatever conference you're in. Actually being in a relatively weak conference will help you to get HCA and maybe enthusiasm build up.

Usually, in leagues where the winner is always from the same conference what happens is that the demoted teams keep winning the league over and over again. And of course, because the promoted team is swapped for a demoted team, the winner always ends up in the same conference. It's not a problem with league balance, the demoted team would certainly be champion in the other conference anyway. It's a sign that the league is somewhat weak and that there are no team competitive enough for the higher level.

I see no problem here and moving teams around seems too complex and needs good reasons for it imho. Conference dominance can shift quickly from my experience. Just my opinion.

You can be credited for an articulate suggestion with a workable solution though :)


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154930.15 in reply to 154930.14
Date: 9/8/2010 9:58:35 PM
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Sorry for the hammering ;)

Things correct themselves over time. Of the 2 exemples given prior in the thread :

s13 : http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/803/overview.aspx
s11 : http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/803/overview.aspx?seas...

s13 : http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/1117/overview.aspx
s11 : http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/1117/overview.aspx?sea...

In both cases, 2 seasons ago, the other conference was counting up more wins.
It will possibly shift again in 2 seasons.