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From: Heathcoat

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130717.47 in reply to 130717.32
Date: 3/1/2010 6:36:27 PM
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Why is it necesary to go to another website to get general guidleines?

I'm not asking for strategy or game planning tips. Hell I'm not even asking for current roster specs.

I'm asking for a general discussion of what the minimum skills are to get a player considered for the squad.


I don't want to be involved in the NT/u21 here in so far as I don't excited about the tournament, the pregame match strategy, etc etc. I am, however, willing to train my players in a manner that might make them useful to the u21 team. I guess what I'm trying to say is that because I'm a manager who attempts to manage my players effectively and religiously, I can be of value to u21 team without having to be part of the u21 team organization. Yet, that doesn't seem to be an option here.

My choices are participate in the off site forum or don't be involved. In that case, the u21 team loses.



Well said and "bingo'.

Now that the salaries have been readjusted I'm not sure that this is as good of a guide as it was in the past. Its still somewhat helpful, but its not the exact science it once was


Especially concerning SF's. SGs and PFs naturally have higher salaries than a well rounded SF, which is why we see very few true SF's on the U21s. Havebt checked in a couple weeks, but most of the season there were no SFs on the U21, SGs and PFs were used. Not saying this was the wrong choice at all, it most likely was the best option. Just thinking a well rounded SF like Gene O'Connell is always going to be a long shot to make the squad because of his lower salary, and thus lower radar signature. The fact that this particular player also seems to power train (1 pos) either PG or C also gives him a lower rating signature than if he played his intended position.

From: Ray C.

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130717.49 in reply to 130717.48
Date: 3/2/2010 12:45:57 AM
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You see, that is why we as USA coaches need some guidelines on player development. I've been fortunate to follow the earlier advice of GM-Brian, and developed my core players all-around. But, even in doing that, they are behind the curve. It seems to me that unless you do one position training, and forsake all other, you do not have a chance.

From: FatCurry

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Date: 3/2/2010 7:10:51 AM
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If you don't one position train you do not have a hope of making the U21. This is because now all the other managers will be single position training and by not doing so your player falls behind.

I also sincerely believe that single position training is the best way to develop your team in the long run, I know the majority here will still disagree but it works wonders.

From: Ray C.

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Date: 3/2/2010 12:24:10 PM
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But, what if you have a core of solid players that you'd like to hang on to? I have five players that form a good nucleius for my team. It allows me to stay in games I would have otherwise lost. So, what does one do?

From: FatCurry

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Date: 3/2/2010 12:38:01 PM
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I have 6 people I train. 3 Are my main guys who will each get 48 minutes when I single position train. The other 3 get the rest of the minutes when I train something such as JS or 1v1 which I'm forced to train two position. As a result I have developed some very good guards which have helped me be successful.

Each manager has his own style but the bottom line is if you have a prospect you want to get to an "Elite" Level however you define it, Single position training is the only way thats going to get them to that level.



From: Rambo

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Date: 3/2/2010 2:10:18 PM
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Single position is the only way to get them to that level ** in the short run. Long term two position training can be as effective.

I am also a firm supporter of single position training, but I think it comes with the caveat that you have to be willing to transfer players. When I was just starting out I bought a couple guys, trained them, sold them off in waves and bought younger/better players each time. Also use your single position players to upgrade your other positions. Train 3 PGs for a season, keep one, sell two, buy one good young replacement PG, and one good older big man.

From: Dawson

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Date: 3/2/2010 5:00:48 PM
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Why not instead of saying this is the min. skills needed, we post some of the better player's stats at the beginning of their 21 yo season from the past couple seasons. We can take the names off if we need to. Sorta say "This is an exemplary SG and what we are hoping to see".

From: Rambo

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Date: 3/2/2010 6:44:59 PM
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competitive disadvantage.

From: Heathcoat

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130717.57 in reply to 130717.48
Date: 3/2/2010 8:00:05 PM
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Rating and salary are not terribly decisive in getting a player on the U21. Although officially Velasco's suggested position is Shooting Guard, he is nearly useless there, and a much better choice at SF.


I Figured this was the case, and it is quite common. My team uses a SG and PF as SF mostly as well. Suggested position doesnt mean much.

I do think that a more well rounded player like the one mentioned, with a lower salary and ratings, belonging to a player that trains but doesnt participate in offsite discussions-this player has a low chance of even being scouted, let alone making the team.

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