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Date: 10/8/2010 6:42:39 AM
Koopasaurus
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That is some sound advice and with a surname like Careless, he is going to be a marketing dream for any team.

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Date: 10/8/2010 6:48:29 AM
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Ok guys, here's my draftee who i'm pretty happy to have scored:

Garland Stevens (16764376) Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 4 517

DMI: 10000
Age: 18
Height: 6'6" / 198 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: respectable
Driving: mediocre Passing: inept
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: pitiful ↑ Free Throw: inept

I'm thinking i'll start off with some jumpshot training, then move across to ID and rebounding to make him a pf with range, or an inside focused sf.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

From: mllama

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Date: 10/8/2010 7:09:58 AM
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Again, you could go a few ways with this guy, my personal opinion is that he may be best suited to the inside SF type role. Therefore, I'd spend pretty much all of this season banging away on his outside skills. Ideally, something like 2-3 pops in OD, JR and passing would be ideal by the end of the season. So his outside skills could look something like:

Average Mediocre/Average
Prominent Strong
Average Respectable

From there, you have a really solid base to work on his inside skills for the next couple of seasons, with some jump shot training mixed in there (and maybe a little more OD when possible).

If you want to make him into a PF, some JR and passing before moving into inside skills would probably be your best bet.

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Date: 10/8/2010 7:11:34 AM
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Either option sounds good and he has the right height for that sort of plan. I would throw in 2-3 levels of Passing training also and more for a SF.

From: iwen

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Date: 10/8/2010 7:12:39 AM
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Um, if you're dedicated to making him a SF, he may develop a bit too late to make the U21 NT, but he can still be an fantastic player.

If that's the route you'd like to take, just train JR and OD for the rest of this season.

8 weeks OD and 6 weeks JR.

Then next season, train jump shot and passing, split 8/6.

When he's 20, you can smash some inside skills, mainly ID and IS.

When he's 21 again, just train OD and JS/One on One for the season.

At 22 you can either polish his passing/jr, or focus a bit more on his inside skills.

From: mllama

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Date: 10/8/2010 7:17:16 AM
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Or that

I actually think he could make the U21s as a SF though, I could potentially see him turning into a Shortall-esque player.

From: zyler

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Date: 10/9/2010 5:12:22 PM
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guys the sf's of that generation are going to be locked in by these 2 guys as long as our under 21 manager at the time makes sure they get trained properly .

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/16765612/overview.aspx

and

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/16764151/overview.aspx

if those 2 are trained properly id say they will be with out a doubt a good leap above every other player for under 21 sf pos.

with that said dont let it discourage you , train hard n train for your team , if your guy gets the call up then great if not settle with having one of he best under 21 sf'sin the country.

Last edited by zyler at 10/9/2010 5:14:16 PM

From: pm24

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Date: 10/9/2010 5:36:25 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, and wow those trainee's zyler's mentioned are awesome.

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Date: 10/9/2010 7:03:08 PM
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The second is actually really average. Even J-Dog says so.

From: zyler

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Date: 10/9/2010 8:01:56 PM
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having seen the skillset id say he has some very high sub levels on a lot of skills so i wouldnt be calling him average.

From: J-Dog

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Date: 10/9/2010 8:02:41 PM
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Yep he is overrated. Wont be anything special.

All it takes though is a dedicated trainer who already has a decent prospect with the right distribution of skills and any player can make the U21 team. Yes he has to be half decent to start off with but I think managers really over value 5.5k+ 18yo's.

My advice is if you do have a young prospect who you feel can make the U21 team then train him. But also remember to train them to fit your own team and team plan. No point having a gun national player if it holds your team back. Unless your plan is all for the national team. The other thing is to never get upset or offended if he doesn't make the national team because you now have a decent player for your team.

If you need more advice on how to train your player check the guidelines on the offsite forum. They are very good in knowing where to get your player skills too and gives you goals for your players.

Edit: Sorry this msg for everyone. Not Iwen

Last edited by J-Dog at 10/9/2010 8:05:06 PM

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