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I second this.

It just adds to the depth of the game. Everyone can play 2 games a week with their starters and throw the 3rd game (usually friendly).

Good players have to make extra decisions, take extra risks and be rewarded.

Last edited by 0verW1ng at 6/5/2022 7:21:53 AM

There just isn't a third game to play in the ASG week, that's the problem (for the cup eliminated players).
So yes, we're being taken all that away, which sucks. You have 2 games to do what you should be doing with 3.
Do you second that?

Last edited by Moresbi at 6/5/2022 8:12:26 AM

Yes, I'm for it. I'm actually for an All "League" team at the end of the season, which doesn't exist yet. And also stat leaders winners, which might be relevant in player's histories.

I would correct you there. That would be good.
Everyone should have their 3 games per week, period. Those in the cup should be awarded for being there (just like any other week) and they are (for being there).
The non-cup teams are just being taken away "one week" (not entirely but almost that in terms of effects) of the schedule and being penalized for not being good enough (it's not like I can opt to beat a 1st division team, I just don't have the ability to lol Should I be removed of a game/week for that? Doesn't sound fair to me).
I have no problem with having to make tradeoffs, which sounds strategic to me.
I have a problem being taken away games, playing time, etc., compared to a minority just because of (I assume) a schedule problem. IMO, it's definitely a schedule/game limitation.
In all other weeks, the cup eliminated teams have the option to play a friendly instead of the cup game, except here (that I'm aware).

IMHO, everyone should have the same number of "regular season" games, regardless of which (you can have your cup games, let me get my players the training they need with friendlies, if that's the problem. I promise I won't ask half what you make in your cup game lol). If you go far in the cup and you earn more, that's fine with me (and excelent for you). Just let me play my games and develop my team, please (and keep their game shape, etc.)

The perfect way (again IMO) is for everyone to be playing on the same leveling field, which sadly doesn't happen here, as of now.

Last edited by Moresbi at 6/5/2022 8:53:59 AM

Now you're making me feel old

You're missing the point... I don't want that game (I haven't earned it), I want I should be getting in return for not getting it That's what I'm being taken away. Anyway, it's a game... I would, at least, like to be having fun but what can you do?

I've been there, unfortunatelly! Both ways (getting far and not). I do get that playoffs are "bonus/extra/elimination" competition, while I would say that regular season is not. In my view, of course.

Not trying to overstate anything, at all. Would just like to have a full regular season, which would make sense.
If it's out of the realm of possibility to have something that makes sense, what can you do?

Don't forget I was just suggesting a schedule improvement! (It's not like there aren't exceptions with the playoffs tie-breakers or anything, anyway).

Good to hear

That's where we don't agree (it's not like we have to lol).
I don't consider what we're talking about a benefit at all. It's the opposite, it's a penalty.
What you consider winning (the 3rd game), I consider the natural course of things (3 games per week, which should be the normal case, during the regular season).
I consider not having the 3rd game a penalty, since I'm being taken that away, not by choice, talent or challenge but a schedule glitch (allow me to have that, i think it has nothing to do with the ASG, at all).

I would say that what you're saying is already happening in the previous rounds. You have to manage your team/squad well and make options, in order to try winning league games and/or going further in the cup. But that's the thing... that's already the usual for the other rounds, so why would that be so special here? Remember, you're not getting an extra, it's the others that are being penalized (you may not see it that way but it is, it's the others that lose a game, you're not gaining one... you still have the same old 3 games, the others (the vast majority) are "doomed" to 2 (and it's implications)). That's part of what bugs me... this little "thing" throws a wrench into the work you've been doing from the beginning.
Don't get me wrong, I can't speak the same way because being a lower division player, I'm sure I haven't been able to be through the same challenges you have but yes, I believe it's compelling. The cup choice shouldn't be about getting an extra game at all, it's already the reward of winning those games ($$) and the competition itself. You play to win the cup (and $), not to get playing time (or I would think).
I agree with you that I may not have the best perspective about those "wider reaching effects" you mention, since I don't have a clear view of the schedule problems and so on. I wouldn't change the schedule at all, just have everyone have 3 games that week (via friendly, generated game or whatever) lol

Anyway, different points of view, I guess.
But if you can/wish to elaborate the problems about those "wider reaching effects", I would gladly hear (and hopefully learn) about them.

Big NO.

It's part of the strategy : do you prioritize league games every week or long tournament run (for money and enthusiasm) ?
And if you're in a low division and can't go far in the national tournament, neither can your league opponents so it's fair to everyone.

There is no strategy if you have to face to a first division rival at tournament while your league mates play vs IV division ones.

Anyway, we can mark the other point:

Disable injuries at scrimmages.