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I haven't read the entire thread, but I've tried 3-2 zone just to see if my center with ID 14 and SB 8 would block any layups from guards (I guess it's a similar concept with 2-3 zone). My center's name is Froget and the game is (48762627)


1 11:53 0 — 0 B. Umilta (A) tries a driving layup under pressure from Y. Froget (H). Shot blocked.
1 10:04 2 — 4 R. Novaković (A) tries a driving layup, guarded closely by Y. Froget (H). Shot blocked
1 8:51 2 — 5 R. Novaković (A) attempts a baseline jumper, guarded closely by Y. Froget (H). Shot blocked.
1 0:48 19 — 18 H. Ergül (A) slips off a screen and fires from the elbow with Y. Froget (H) right in his face. Shot blocked.
2 10:59 21 — 24 B. Umilta (A) tries a driving layup, guarded closely by Y. Froget (H). Shot blocked.

Before fouling out, he had 5 blocks in 27 minutes. He blocked a PF once, SF twice and PG twice. Of course he fouled out because his OD is not high enough.

I think SB doesn't help much against inside players with high inside shot, unless your player's SB is higher than IS of his counterpart. It does help tremendously against driving layups though because DR is much inferior to IS as far as FG% goes. So I'll give 3-2 defense a few more tries and someday maybe even 2-3.

Last edited by Koperboy at 7/2/2012 7:25:57 AM

Maybe...but where will you find a guard with ID 14 and SB 8?

I also noticed there are very little blocks when playing M2M. That's because a player with ID 17 and SB 10 will not block a lot of shots, coming from a player with IS 17. However he can block some shots coming from guards with DR 17 and IS 5, for example. Maybe that's one of the reasons a lot of people say SB isn't useful - because SB should be really high to create a next Serge Ibaka. I mean, you face a IS 20 guy with ID 18 and SB 12, and complain SB is useless...face the same guy with ID 19 and SB 18 and suddenly blocks will start coming.

And what about alteration of the shot?

Maybe...but where will you find a guard with ID 14 and SB 8?

I also noticed there are very little blocks when playing M2M. That's because a player with ID 17 and SB 10 will not block a lot of shots, coming from a player with IS 17. However he can block some shots coming from guards with DR 17 and IS 5, for example. Maybe that's one of the reasons a lot of people say SB isn't useful - because SB should be really high to create a next Serge Ibaka. I mean, you face a IS 20 guy with ID 18 and SB 12, and complain SB is useless...face the same guy with ID 19 and SB 18 and suddenly blocks will start coming.

Guards dont need high ID to block shots. If you look at guards with even 8SB and ID as low as 2, you will find that they still can block 1+ shots a game on average. It is based upon those driving layups. You will also find that having good SB on guards will leave the opponents' guards having less success on layups, even in M2M.

As for blocked shots in general by bigs(like Serge Ibaka in real life) what types of shots get more shots in the NBA? Layups, floaters, and dunks. Very rarely do you see a big man who can score just get blocked while shooting normally. Just like on here, the SB wont effect regular inside shots as much as it would effect the driving layups and dunks in games. Just like it was mentioned by someone earlier, playing zone will lead to more blocks, however you will also find that when a player has more SB he will help more with help defense and block more shots as well. So M2M doesn't cut down on those blocked shots really if you have an excellent shotblocker.