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It is unfair since the season 3 I'm playing buzzerbeater, and only 2 have been able to achieve promotion, and have an income of 240k is not fair that a person with greater inexperience achieve greater reward, and therefore I can not access the level players because these teams have greater buying economically.

The game is intentionally designed so that optimal training and optimal lineups for current games are at odds. If you could do both optimally at the same time, it would make it quite hard for teams that are behind to catch up, after all.

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I don´t think the main problem with small/large BB-countries is the B3 competition, although obviously the underlying problem is also affecting to the competitiveness of the big countries participants.
In Spain, we have the feeling that we are not playing the same game, compared to users in small countries. At least the same rules are not applying for everybody.
The economic advantage has already been addressed partially with the last changes. But there is still a difference that is frustrating many users in Spain when they try to hire a Staff member or buy a player and they have to face a bidding war against some of these users.
But there is also a training advantage which is related to the quoted BB-Charles post. They can do an optimal training at the same time of being fully competitive in their cup and league championship. In addition they can keep high their enthusiasm without problems. Game Shape is also more easily kept because they don´t need their best players to win the local matches.

and i hope you praise god, that you could play BB with a real competition, which in my eyes makes it funny not boring.

Even if we are wining with low salary we still need money to buy players to be competitive on BBB. Yes our teams rise faster than yours on the domestic leagues but BBB considered your in a better position compared to me. You are playing much longer than me=more money. Also put on the account the experience that you get after so much seasoning, and here you have more experience tactic wise.

Also if you check my games you will find out that i am out from the cup, losing from the worse team in CBBA. Why? couz i had 3 games in a row against the 3 from the best teams in my league. Ive made my choices, and they where wrong, but thats shows that itsnt so easy as you want to make it shows.

So if you made an account on Barbados, you will win easily the domestic league, but you will still mass amount of money to be competitive to BBB. I really have hard time to find any advantage BBB wise.

Maybe the problem after all, is that on the large leagues small teams have really hard time to advance divisions and win it all, rather the small countries. Maybe something must change there. Hellas for example, have the same champion from the history. The same goes to Canada too. I bet that same goes to several countries too. I think that is much more important couz here we are not talking for 0.3% of the community. We are talking about the majority. How you will convince me to stay if i know that will never get any trophy until several teams decide to retire?

Isnt bigger issue that for you than BBB?

As i said again the game has many holes, but this one its not one of them or at least one of the priorities.

Edit: Dont punish me for my bad luck that i was born in a small country...

Last edited by JohnnyB at 1/27/2010 5:48:53 PM

But if I move to one of this small countries and apply for a BuzzerBeater team, you can be sure that I would be very competitive in 3 seasons or less depending on the time I want to spend. I´m talking about me, but the same for Leyendinha or AlexRepetti. If one of them goes to live to Barbados, you can say goodbye to the B3 in a few seasons.

You are joking right? Or do you really believe this?

Even if you make an extra 250k/week in those countries compared to the top teams, this is around 3,5M per year. So in 3 seasons your team earned 10,5M more than the best teams. You can never build a B3 topteam with just 10,5M extra revenue, you can barely buy 1,5 decent player for that amount of cash.

How you will convince me to stay if i know that will never get any trophy until several teams decide to retire?

Welcome to the reality of most of the teams of BB :) Let me tell you growing as a team among equals, reaching the chance to play against the best is funny enough.

It is unfair since the season 3 I'm playing buzzerbeater, and only 2 have been able to achieve promotion, and have an income of 240k is not fair that a person with greater inexperience achieve greater reward, and therefore I can not access the level players because these teams have greater buying economically.

The issue is that there is no easy solution to this problem though; if you reduce the incomes teams in small countries can make too much (and remember they are already somewhat reduced from TV contracts etc), you make it impossible for small countries to ever compete against big countries. What is more unfair:

1)A Barbados team makes it to Div I in only 3 seasons and now makes almost as much as a Div I USA team, while good american managers need to spend 5-6 (probably more) seasons to go from div V to div I.

2)A Barbados team makes it to Div I but he can still only make 500k a week because his country is small. An american team makes it to Div I and now he can make 800k/week (we're just going to assume they can both avoid relegation forever, even though the bigger countries face stronger competition for those top division spots.) That Barbados team will be at a 300k/week disadvantage forever, simply because his country was small. So even though he may have become the best team in his small country (without a lot of work), he can never compete with the best teams from the big countries (no matter how much he works).

I totally understand your position, but I think these are both equally unfair situations and I'm not sure how you can solve them both at the same time.