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Yea the whole NT and GS thing is really gonna be quite the issue :s

How would a short term hit to game shape prevent a team from catching up? It might prevent a team from constantly shuffling in new "expensive players bought cheaply" but does anyone consider a team which is constantly doing that as actually having caught up to the the truly top teams?

The top teams in a league (at least in India where we only have 40 teams) make extra money through cup and through added attendance which allows them to maintain a more expensive roster. This has led to a many season dominance by a single team who makes at least $50,000 per week more and perhaps $100,000 per week more in cup weeks than the other teams. Over the last ~20 seasons, there have been only two teams that have won the championship and the Cup, with occasional hiccups.

Unless one wants to tank for several seasons and build up the $20 million required, buying an expensive player a week or two before the playoffs gives one a chance. Hopefully the GS hit won't go below respectable, in which case it would not be too bad, but I don't see the need for it in the first place.

Why not team enthusiasm drop? Similar to NT when you drop a player, in league when you add a player.

Was there a final consensus on the GS hit for buying players? It seems like a bad idea to me because buying expensive players cheaply is one of the only ways that teams can catch up without tanking. The top teams consistently make more money by winning - whether in home attendance, cup games, or merchandising - and so can maintain a higher salary.

The gameshape hit is supposed to be very short term so I'm not sure what tanking has to do with it.

My only point is that several teams have spent a lot of money and built salary efficient rosters. Unless one wants to accumulate the same amount of money, usually by tanking, the only way of staying competitive is by buying hihg salary players at the last week.

Anyway, whatever the final decision, it will work itself out.

Unless one wants to accumulate the same amount of money, usually by tanking, the only way of staying competitive is by buying hihg salary players at the last week.

It always amuses me when one confuses the concept of "easiest" with "only."

It always amuses me when one confuses the concept of "easiest" with "only."

Depends on your definition. The easiest way is to tank for 5 seasons, build up 20 million in the bank and then buy your team. I fail to see why this is superior to trying to win every year.

I don't mean to be too rude, but having had Dragan Abrlic on my team in the past, he's not a salary-efficient player. I can't see Gomez or Yuande's build either, but if you want to build up, consider selling the three of them and acquiring 3 players to replace them in the 80k-100k salary range. You'll still be competitive (not winning the league), and you'll make $250k a week extra.

I thought you said the same couple of teams win every year - are they the ones using the tactic of buying a couple of big salary players right before the deadline?

If not, then the tactic of buying these last minute additions to a playoff team isn't actually a successful one in your league for "trying to win every year."

If they are the ones winning every year, I'd think that would be a good argument for trying to limit the ability of teams to use such a tactic.

The teams with better finances are always going to have an easier time of using this tactic than those who are struggling financially. Both because they can more easily afford to add players from the TL and because they can better handle paying the high salary for the couple of weeks the player may be on the team to win whatever title they are going after.

I've always thought that the tactic of buying last minute additions for the playoffs/cup/bb3 was largely a short term one (i.e. to promote) which was likely to result in any team using it having additional long-term issues down the road. For a cup or BB3 victory, long-term impacts are largely not a consideration because the team is really only trying to win it that one year and not planning on completing the next. For league play, the idea is generally to win a promotion and then use the promotion bonus (and likely at least a minor tanking strategy the following season) to restock both the coffers and the roster.

It's not a strategy I would expect to be long-term successful, but also not one I would expect most people to be trying to use continually. Are there teams who successfully do this every season? Basically do a mini-tank all season long to just slip into the playoff and then add a high salary player or two for a run at a championship?