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Good job.

So the quality of those players that we get to chose from can't be all that great.

As for the 40 yo FA I don't see a problem there as he fulfills the criteria set for a player to be put as a FA.

You don't see the irony in this do you?

Well, Marin was completely opposed to FA altogether, to the point he was convinced that it was right to retire young players with high salary (so trained) and HoF potential who were good enough to be on the (Italian - largest BB country) U21 radar in the past. Many good players retired because the past FA policy was different, certainly much better players that you see lately in Free Agency.

I don't think it makes sense to bring back retired players, but rather than having 40yo free agents with very bad skills it would probably be better.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/17/2017 8:22:23 AM

the boycott and unretiring players wans't really linked as far as i'm concerned. the boycott is done to avoid the tanking. Where as you are asking to change FA rules. they aren't really linked

TLDR; You think prices in the market is just right so unretiring is not needed. I think they are a bit high so I suggest considering expanding the criteria to free agents and unretiring players.

And you think i like the high prices? stop joking around! i'm a team in II, freshly promoted. I would love nothing more than to have be able to add a couple of players for free and go straight to the top division! However, BB doesn't work that way. and if i could add them, so would my opponents. So in the end, it's just a null operation, except that we've lowered the market, hence cheating out the managers who train players to then sell them afterwards...

The reason the pricesz are high is because there are now rules in place to avoid cash hoarding & to avoid tanking so that teams can't splash huge amounts of cash around. Due to that, people are burning a lot of cash on the TL, meaning the prices are higher. Means you buy high, but you also get to sell high. that is the effect of trying to get rid of surplus in cash (somethign to which i'm sure GullyFoyle would agree on). currently, there is to much cash in the game. By unretiring free agents, we bring down the market. But that means that there is still to much cash in the game.

Also, something else:

There have been many suggestions made about having a team chemestry thing added to the game. That, combined with the poor GS after the trades, is to counter day trading, aswell as using a rental (buying a player for 1 game, selling him before the end of the week so that you don't have to pay his salary). So there have been plenty of rules being made to lessen the player movement. yet you want to increase it again? that opens the doors back for daytrading, which hurts training & influences the TL in a very negative way. So i'm still not aboard with your arguements.

You want more player movements. Yet that opens the door for daytrading. There is a reason such rules are in place. right now, you don't like the high prices on the TL. Well that is because teams were able to tank. teams were able to stash up a bunch of cash. I have my reservations about the boycott idea, however, those aren't for this topic. this topic is concerning unretiring players, the effects it would have and why certain people find it a good or a bad idea. I've pointed out enough reasons as to why it's a bad idea. To me, the negatives still outweight the positives. untill that balance can be changed, i'd be surprized to see the suggestion considered. But to know for sure, you'd need to have an actual BB post his idea's on the matter

Daytrading is not bad per se, because, on a basic level, it increases the liquidity of the market and helps forming correct prices given the level of demand.

A tax on the sale value and not on the profit however is actually bad. This does indeed stop daytrading, but also discourage people to trade in general.

I'd suggest to test a system for a few seasons where a haircut is calculated and applied to any profit made. If you sell at a loss you pay the normal 3% fees and that's it if you sell at a profit you give up between 3%-100% of that profit, depending how many players you sold in the previous 16 weeks. See if that does increase the number of players traded.

Note that people are not stupid, they are not going to give away money to the game, unless they really have to. So the result of high taxes on sale values does not increase the drain from bank accounts, it simply reduces the trading activity. A tax on profit might drain as much if not more money from the economy depending how much more activity you'd see.

We made these points in the past, but Marin (and other GMs) was never able or willing to entertain a discussion on these points, their reasoning being that the change achieved the stated purpose (removing day trading) therefore it was ok lol. Shutting down the game would also solve every problem from training to micronations to daytrading and even LI!

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/19/2017 9:06:49 AM