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From: Menace

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315317.32 in reply to 315317.31
Date: 8/3/2022 10:38:39 AM
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Lol then that list is garbage.. that’s not true ranking list really. Throw that out lmao… you can’t disagree captain’s list, his list is more a true list with different factors. To add salt to the wound my salary is the highest in this league go check buzzer manager for salaries. I’ll be first on your list by salary but oh well

From: cloudkid

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Date: 8/3/2022 10:56:51 AM
Lahser
IV.10
Overall Posts Rated:
2020
Calm down lover boy. I didn't talk about overall team salary. Salaries of top 5 player on each team. Chill I'll put you guys in my list, lol.

My new list:

1. Turtles
2. Pirates
3. Tall Bodies
4. Green Peppers
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16. Lahser

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From: Menace

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315317.35 in reply to 315317.33
Date: 8/3/2022 11:40:26 AM
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33
BOOOOOOOOOOO

From: Yakoska
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Date: 8/3/2022 12:09:39 PM
Galloping Sloths
III.4
Overall Posts Rated:
101101
So I get ranked #2 after game one then had to play #1 in game two? fun. Be interestd to see how far I fall losing to #1 by 1 pt (though it was at home)

Edit> Oh and his roster's huge

Last edited by Yakoska at 8/3/2022 12:10:23 PM

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Date: 8/3/2022 12:31:15 PM
Lahser
IV.10
Overall Posts Rated:
2020
I watched it live. With a minute left, coach decides to sub in my bench while only being 2 point ahead. Just watch the final 30 seconds. For some reason your guy Stipanicic decided to pop off and almost won the game single handedly. I checked last year's game, he was shut down both games. Good game tho

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Date: 8/3/2022 12:36:39 PM
Galloping Sloths
III.4
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101101
He popped off because he was forced to, due to the injury to my 71k salary guy in the first half. Reason he didn't last season is probably just deference to him.

Last edited by Yakoska at 8/3/2022 12:37:35 PM

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Date: 8/3/2022 12:56:38 PM
Porch Pirates
III.14
Overall Posts Rated:
3737
I was gonna wait a week or two to do an update but I'm actually really excited bc I made some tweaks to the formula, so I'll probably post again tonight or tomorrow

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Date: 8/3/2022 3:12:28 PM
Lahser
IV.10
Overall Posts Rated:
2020
I'm really interested in this formula, how you calculate everything.

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Date: 8/3/2022 9:30:58 PM
Porch Pirates
III.14
Overall Posts Rated:
3737
I've never done a ranking like this so I just kinda did what felt right without being too complex to calculate. The formula for version 1 was 30% player salary (of which 3/4 was top 5 players and 1/4 was 6-8), 60% was team skill ratings in games (even split between scoring ratings and defense ratings. I did not include rebounding or flow, I might do that in a future version) and the other 10% was win-loss record. I will be releasing a new version some time in the next 24 hours (tonight, if I have time) with slightly different methods for scoring skill ratings and team record.

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Date: 8/4/2022 1:11:17 AM
Porch Pirates
III.14
Overall Posts Rated:
3737
Like I said a few posts up, I was gonna wait a week or two to update, but I made some slight adjustments to how I calculated the ranking and I was excited to share it as quickly as possible.

The adjustments I made are:

1) For skill ratings, instead of setting the grading scale such that 100% is the highest average of any team in the league, I set it such that 100% is the highest rating that any team in the league has achieved in any game during the season. This means there's not going to be anybody getting perfect scores in those categories, which just kinda feels more realistic to me.

2) Instead of just using Win/Loss percentage, I decided to calculate a simple Strength of Record (S.O.R) metric. It won't be nearly as fancy as anything you'd see on ESPN, don't get me wrong, but it does account for the relative strength of your opponents, by giving you points for your wins and taking away points for your losses based on the win-loss record of your opponents. TL;DR: beating strong teams awards more points, and losing to strong teams costs less points.

3) Since I expect Strength of Record to become more reliable as more games are played, I set the formula to slowly increase the weight of S.O.R. over time and reduce the weight of Salary. This will be very gradual and won't be very noticeable until around 4-5 weeks in.

Without further ado, CapnCrazy110's III.15 Power Rankings, Version 2!

Rk---------------Overall Score
1---Lahser------0.897
2---Turtles------0.862
3---Sloths-------0.852
4---Dogs--------0.84
5---Pirates------0.828
6---Peppers-----0.79
7---Tall Bodies--0.779
8---Champs-----0.76
9---Cardinals----0.713
10--EBW---------0.693
11--Huskies-----0.693
12--Tropics------0.656
13--Kings--------0.648
14--Sonics-------0.641
15--Wolves------0.579
16--Capybara---0.541

Link to category-by-category scores for each team: https://ibb.co/Yf5KDq4

Observations:

There were several big purchases in the last 48 hours that seriously impacted the salary portion of the ranking. Beware of Dogs and Hartford Huskies both moved up one spot in the ranking based on those moves, at the expense of Porch Pirates and Tropics.

The difference between EBW and Hartford is ~.00013, and I almost reported their ranks as flipped bc I rounded the numbers to 3 decimals before sorting.

For funsies I decided to check what the ranking would be if salary was ignored entirely. My team would have been #1, followed by Tenacious Turtles, with Lahser at 3rd. Which just underscores how heavily myself and Turtles rely on our deep lineups.

The top defensive rating so far was Galloping Sloths against Lahser. But the best offensive rating was Lahser in that same game.

The average defense in the league is actually slightly better than the average offense. An average defense rating is Respectable (low) while an average offense rates as Average (high). It just looks like the defenses are weaker because of the way that the ratings are scored.

The lowest ranked unbeaten is Tall Bodies at 7th. They didn't get many points for their 2 wins because they've only beaten 0-2 teams. Case Cardinals comes in at 9th despite being 0-2 for exactly the opposite reason.

Last edited by CapnCrazy110 at 8/4/2022 1:12:38 AM

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