Yea I have a level 4 trainer. Would it be possible to get that inside d from inept(4) to say prominent (10) by the end of a season with a level 4 trainer...or am i being unrealistic. This is my first trainee...so I don't really have experience with training an 18 year old. I do want to get his defense and rebounding high...defense is my first priority. I already got a nice PF who can score who has some 12's, 11's and 10's in key area's. I just want atleast for now a defensive force in the paint :) then fill out the Inside scoring later on. Thanks for the help. I'm new and still learning, but I'm enjoying myself so far.