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293077.26 in reply to 293077.25
Date: 4/12/2018 9:17:24 PM
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Yes how will you demonstrate by publicly messaging the lower leagues and saying they can't have top USA players just by tanking and taking the easy way out.

I am not going to say the entire problem if its not fix by the time I am running for the under 21 then I will fix it.

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Date: 4/12/2018 9:41:02 PM
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Yes how will you demonstrate by publicly messaging the lower leagues and saying they can't have top USA players just by tanking and taking the easy way out.

I am not going to say the entire problem if its not fix by the time I am running for the under 21 then I will fix it.


What about the teams that legitimately aren't good?
How will you differentiate between who you... correct me if I am wrong here... Want the u21 coach, whomever it is, to Publicly out, and ostracize (which is against BB rules. 3 of my forum bans were for doing something similar to that)?

From: lvess

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293077.28 in reply to 293077.26
Date: 4/12/2018 9:49:00 PM
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This is the exact attitude that keeps many, many managers from participating in training players for the U21 team.

I've said it before on the forums but my first, and second, and third experience with the U21 trainers/manager was them insulting me for wanting to try and win instead of tank and train (as they suggested I do).

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293077.29 in reply to 293077.28
Date: 4/12/2018 10:04:03 PM
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Ivess:

It has never been my intention to encourage a manager to "tank and train." If I have ever come across this way I apologize. It is not the U21's responsibility to dictate what level of success a manager should aim for on his team. We simply try to reach out and help them train players for the U21 team. I know many managers that prefer to tank and train, but I also know a variety of managers that are able to train for the U21 and still maintain success. So it should never be a U21 staff member's responsibility to tell a manager what to do with their team. Rather they should offer advice should the manager choose to accept it. I apologize for the three times this has happened to you, and I promise that I will personally talk to all my staff members to ensure this does not happen while I am manager.

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293077.30 in reply to 293077.27
Date: 4/12/2018 10:20:43 PM
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I meant private or discord chat. I would tell them to sale the players because of potential and they can't handle the national team player.

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Date: 4/12/2018 10:28:36 PM
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I can't agree to that. Thats something a specific manager I cant stand would do. It just alienates people, and further creates the divide and the "party" systems.

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293077.35 in reply to 293077.34
Date: 4/13/2018 6:10:31 AM
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First off as a member of the U21 scouting team I have to put my support towards Nick. He has shown he can be an active part of the U21 community and much like JK, he has put the time and effort into scouting, training, and applying himself in gameplan discussions. I believe he is the right guy for the job.

However, I do have a couple questions for all the candidates.

If you were to win the election what do you think you bring to U21 management position that the other candidates lack?

What do you think your biggest obsticle would be if you were appointed U21 manager?


From: lvess

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293077.36 in reply to 293077.29
Date: 4/13/2018 7:08:17 AM
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Acknowledged. My point was that Wardo's statement was heading back down the road to bringing that attitude back into the U21 pipeline.

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