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The reason for training being so hard in top divisions is only ONE! The game shape training is ridiculous, and nowadays is killing this game for those who love to train, like me.

Solution: Simply destroy game shape training and make teams who really manage their guys minutes win (and also have trainees). Or even make the training less eficient, right now your player can grow 2 levels of shape on a week with 20 or 90 minutes...no sense!


Last edited by Melo9 at 7/2/2014 7:53:39 AM

The reason for training being so hard in top divisions is only ONE! The game shape training is ridiculous, and nowadays is killing this game for those who love to train, like me.

Remove GS training or not, there's no way that you can play an 18 year old in league matches in the top level against other competitive teams and succeed. Thankfully there are often a lot of teams that are throwing games for the Cup, or easy Cup draws, etc., but training isn't unappealing because of GS training, it's more that GS training is more appealing because training is unappealing.

Well, you can't train the 18years old if your on Division 1/2 and competing to win it...but that's obvious, it's like in real life...
However, if you're on division 1 and on mid of table, you can use your trainee on cup matches early and as reserve too on league...

This is exactly what I have thought about over the last couple months and you just completely hit the nail on the head.

If we want to make the Draft a great experience for everyone, we have to take the randomness factor out and make scouting equal for everyone. Adding additional costs to scouting wouldn't be a bad thing because it will create an experience there everyone would enjoy. It would also allow it to be more realistic.

Let's be honest, every NBA team utilizes the Draft and scouts players. I like being able to see the box scores and ratings because many people can get a good indication of skills based on these. No more of just random box scores with no ratings.

Also, I like the addition of 20 and 21yos in the draft, but I think these players need to be specialty players. Just like the NBA draft, the guys picked later on have one or two decent skills that make them worthy of playing time but just may not have potential. These are the role players and bench players. The middle of the Draft usually has some starters and could have decent starting skill sets. The beginning of the Draft has the studs. Guys with good potential (unless they are busts) and decent starting skills.

The only way we can mimic this is with a second scout like Ramon Simon suggested.

Hi,

I think there are too much 7 Feet or more players in the draft, if i just count 5 players over 7"(2m15) by rookie class, there are something like 800 divisions in France that makes 4000 very tall player each year, i think this is ridiculously higher compared to real life demographic stats. You should have at least 70 % under 6'6, and 97 % under 7"

in real life yes, in basketball?

Check out the heights of the top 48 picks in the NBA draft, I counted at least a couple.

The NBA draft is global, and deals with only 60 players every year

How many divisions in BB? There can't be so much 7 footer, just have in mind than 17% of American 7footer plays in NBA, so it is nonsense to have thousands 7footer rookies in the BB world each year.

Just check out my example, about 4000 7 footer in France or other 6 divisions champs,each year!!There is no way 4000 7 footer in France and even in the USA, just check the demographics

(http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2013/06/27/nba-dra...) Look at this article only 70 7footer in USA (counting people from 20 to 40), in BB 4000 each year ...

Last edited by Tom2vals at 1/15/2015 2:50:14 PM

true
but BB isn't real life. and the number of league's is not proportional to the number of professional BB players. It would be unfair that only the top leagues had 7ft's, whilst the lowly Div IV could only scrap together 6'6 guys at best.

So essentially each 'division' level should simulate that proportion of 7fters.
this is how your statistic's are becoming skewed. If you looked at it more from a 'proportion' perspective, it become a bit better.
eg: In my league, there are 16 teams', about 200 players. of those, there are about 20-25 players over 7ft.
10-15% as a proportion is pretty spot on. Some NBA team's have no one over 7ft, some have 2, some 3. so the proportion is about right.

Also I would cast extreme doubt over that article. only 70 people in the USA are over 7ft? cmon, lets use common sense here, that article is bogus.

34 current NBA players listed at 7ft or above, so the average per team is just over 1. So the NBA proportion to each leagues proportion is correct.
The other thing with BB, is that height is directly related to training speed (slower/faster). if you drastically reduced the number of 7fters, you would make EXTREME problems with the transfer market, as players over 7ft would be so expensive. This would cause massive economic issues with the transfer market and so to keep the balance, they keep the proportion.

Last edited by Coach Regan at 1/15/2015 7:39:56 PM

Come on,

you can't tell it is bogus, there are lot of foreign players making 7" it deserves counting but maybe 50%. If they are 20 25 people over 7" in your league, how many leagues in the game. Just in Usa One D1 4 D2 16 D3 64D4 256 D5 512 D6 853 divisions in USA,France,Poland,Spain,Italy. There are 10 times more 7" in BB than living in the world(playing basketball or not).

I'm not suggesting making disapear these players on lower division, maybe reduce them, and make size something so hard to get as potential. I drafted 4 seasons ago a 7'2 Hall of Famer, IRL such a player happens every 5 or 10 years.

If you disagree with the number of 70 7feeter in the USA (20 years old to 40) what is your estimation 500,000? 70 is a number i heard about in many sites, looks as it is close to reality

NB: I just checked, there are 35 7feeter in current NBA, 16 of them are American, 19 come from abroad

Last edited by Tom2vals at 1/16/2015 9:12:04 AM