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255962.23 in reply to 255962.20
Date: 3/31/2014 8:07:08 PM
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There are 18-19 yr's old in top league that are very very good in play. Some have went one to be starters for those top teams. Now im not saying line the whole team with 18-19 yrs olds and your going to the win the Nbba, , Now that would be false, I have spoke on that many times, the draft can not work in that fashion for a top team in it success.. at same time we cant say it impossible and can never happen.( a top be success with a whole roster of youth.)

At same what I come to understand is a group of draft pick wont matter in top league because the exp and skill gap.

But If you do if you find one good 18/19 yr old and train him the right way just one a very good one.,He will be putting up big games in top league. it has happened and can happen. That's not myth it has happened 15ppg in top league is very good for 18 yr old. Im not going to name, names. because that redirecting the topic. To advertising. But we both know a lot top team are buying 1-2 good young players. It has nothing with training extempt because those teams, don't truly need exemption money. The roster is already filled with players 200K or better what good will exempt do?

Then there's factors like game shape. speed training.proper player build, all these favor the younger player not the older. Because the younger can and will be better than that older guy( a new starter in 3 season time with better skills too).The 18 yrs old will have good games in top league. I'm not saying 32ppg and 11 triple doubles, let not get carried away in the matter.. Im saying they can have good games and have big game in top league.. 13pts 5reb 4 ast is a big for a 18 yr old in top league./ That;s huge

Because if you do the numbers he would be 22ppt 9-10reb 8ast in lower league( now his team mate matter, in this wild guess of ppg). I think this why a lot of top manager are playing top dollar forr 1-2 very good trainee. Before no reason to buy them in top league. because those player don't qual any success to start. but if build around him while team is whining down. it make a lot of good sence.

In small It depends on training and how you set him up and his team mates. his success depends on you.

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255962.24 in reply to 255962.15
Date: 3/31/2014 8:14:56 PM
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True... I think it fall on his surrounding cast of players. In order to play well and do well, he will need the right elements to suceed as you train him into the formula of the team.

Some players will just do much better than other in this aspect. You have to find the right 18 yrs old player and train him to be the leader.


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255962.25 in reply to 255962.24
Date: 3/31/2014 8:46:35 PM
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ok we got the point april fools day or you just forgot to take your pills today again? oO

now srsly i really dont understand where do u find the motivation to troll so much on every topic on this forum,please enlight me.

on topic:18 y/o gets u something like 8-10 primary pops,or there is option to fill most/all holes,that again leads us to the point what the player is being made for,if u want a player for your team and keep him in really long run,sure u can get away with 19 y/o,if u want to make profits and re-sell after 1,2,3 seasons 19 y/os are your way but if u want a player that can reach nt or u-21 nt than 18 y/o is a must.
and lets be honest most of the people still playing this game are here just for ocasional chat during game days/on forums and for that green pops on fridays ;)

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255962.26 in reply to 255962.25
Date: 3/31/2014 9:06:53 PM
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who said anything about u21 or selling. who said anything about april fool 's and my last part ,who said it was written in stone as a 100% fact for BB.. I said it highly possible it can happen and has happened for a few teams which a exemption the rule in a luck way, not the law of the land.

Its called rebuilding. You don't need a whole new team to rebuild. You build around a young player with a good solid vet team cast. That team can win a top league title it has already happen, plenty of teams hand that one player at 18 and was doing well.

The reason to get 18 yrs old is not just u21 or sell for millions. while that nice to do so . Its not the best purpose of choices for long term success for everybody., The reason for that 18 yrs old is to help your team become better. No one said a team of 18-19 yrs old draftee's is going to win top league. If the draft was better within the skill of the these players to start, then I would re consider that assessment.

I said one 18 yrs old can play well in top league. No one is saying he a has to put up kobe or wilt chamberlain numbers. No one is trolling. If someone give point of view. they become a troll I wonder how science and medicine has gotten this far with the attitude of that statement. but I'm not surprised on the assault and murder rate of the world among it peers.



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255962.27 in reply to 255962.26
Date: 3/31/2014 10:35:51 PM
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Play well for an 18 YO? sure? Play well relative to the league, probably not. I like how you ambiguously word things though. I can see a 18/19 YO score ~15 points in a game in a top league, but I'd imagine the people on the court with him were good enough to cover the obvious blaring difference in skills.

The whole point of this thread is discussing whether an 18 YO trainee is overrated or not. Obviously you think so. I don't think they're overrated, but some are quite outrageously priced.

As mentioned, which you failed to address, an 18 YO will have a whole season of pops more than a 19 YO. Add on the fact that 18 is the fastest year of training. This gap keeps widening the later you start. An 18 YO will also have an extra season of playability than a 19 YO, again this gap widens the later you start.

Sure, not all of us want U21, or NT. But I play this game to win, and get to the top. I can't speak for others in this case. However, my logic is, if I want to be the best, I'll have to build the best team I can. Now how will I do that? Buying players I need, and training top players. The first part is based off the transfer list, while the latter part is based off training. If I want to train top level players then I want the best training available, regardless of U21 or NT.


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255962.28 in reply to 255962.23
Date: 3/31/2014 10:37:14 PM
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But If you do if you find one good 18/19 yr old and train him the right way just one a very good one.,He will be putting up big games in top league. it has happened and can happen. That's not myth it has happened 15ppg in top league is very good for 18 yr old. Im not going to name, names. because these players DO NOT EXIST.


I fixed part of your post. I don't think my lifespan (or, really, BB's) would afford enough time to fix all of your post.

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255962.29 in reply to 255962.27
Date: 4/1/2014 11:41:21 AM
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in reality of bb the 18 yr old will always be better. Theres no argument to that. Only valid argument to that is the managers behind that playing him and training him the right way.

This is were the 19 yr old can be better on BB in the long haul. Its falls down the managers.Not everybody will create every youth to the best for his/her team. All training is differ for each team needs. Starting in the wrong area is a set back for youths. Thats were the 19 yr old will be better.

Im not dis agreeing with any points you made, Just expanding the topic.I dont think a 18 yr old is overated, i think its to many ways to expand a player to make that claim. it depends on the managers, way of play and correct training on who will be better

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 4/1/2014 11:46:42 AM