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From: Wakes

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240723.23 in reply to 240723.17
Date: 4/21/2013 11:45:27 AM
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I agree, it's a pain in the butt to build up a good team. I'm just trying to give you some perspective from my experience- I was in the same situation as you for a while, in a similar size country. It's not an immediate process, but it can be done while maintaining your team. Find the guys on your team you think are salary efficient that you can build around. Sell off the others. Buy guys that will keep you afloat in IPBL- those in the 50k-80k range. I know it's not easy to take a few losses, but playing a season with 3 guys in the 50k-80k/week range ought to keep you from relegating, and by the end of the season, you'll have enough money just saved from the salary decreases per week to bring in 1-2 of those salary efficient players you're talking about that cost $1.5M.

Even better. Sell off the guys who you don't see as parts of a championship team, and buy one or two younger players (24-25ish) that are close to being salary efficient players, but with one or two holes. Spend the season training them, and for less money than it would cost you at the end of the year, you'll have two well-trained players to fill up two of your starting 5 spots.

Obviously, this may all be for nothing, it's just a recommendation based on what I've found worked for my team. You've obviously done a very strong job already, I just think, like you said, that you need to take a step back for a season or two in terms of competitiveness if you really want to jump to the next level.

From: Jay_m

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240723.24 in reply to 240723.23
Date: 4/21/2013 2:18:15 PM
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Obviously, this may all be for nothing, it's just a recommendation based on what I've found worked for my team. You've obviously done a very strong job already, I just think, like you said, that you need to take a step back for a season or two in terms of competitiveness if you really want to jump to the next level.


Actually, I agree with all that you've said and I may go to it in the end. My concern is that, and this may be unique to the IPBL, one or two seasons is not likely to cut it. We have teams that have not tanked but have done middling well for 7 seasons with savings of 20+ million. One team is now 7th ranked in the world and one other team is ready to buy another 20 million roster.

So what I, and others, try to do is to patch holes. That's brought me to 3rd in the country but to go the extra step may need the sacrifice that you say.

From: BarryS

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240723.25 in reply to 240723.17
Date: 4/22/2013 6:26:36 AM
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I've decided never again to get players with legendary JS. I got Abrlic for the playoff games last season and kept him through the cup run. I like outside offenses but outside players always seem to underperform..

I'm puzzled by that statement not to pile on here. ....I would hope that you are not running a low post oriented offense , if so from the way you are talking it just won't justify having such a player on your team.
If you are running an inside offense deal with the strong possibility of that guards not getting enough touches.
But I doubt you may understand you are already at the top of the hill with a country with just 40 teams you say.
I'm wondering how you would do in the U.S or Spain or Italy, Germany.
I would drop you in D. IV.32 here in the U.S for starters. ..I have done old friends that would test your mettle.

From: Jay_m

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240723.26 in reply to 240723.25
Date: 4/22/2013 10:26:12 AM
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Was there a point to this post? Other people made good suggestions and I tried to reply to them positively by explaining my rationale, which may or may not be eventually be successful.

All I said here is that SG often perform poorer than their salary might warrant. Surely this is not a heretical idea in BB.

From: BarryS

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240723.28 in reply to 240723.26
Date: 4/22/2013 11:09:31 AM
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I timed out on my phone my response was so long. No big deal chum.

From: Jay_m

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240723.29 in reply to 240723.27
Date: 4/22/2013 1:01:18 PM
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I think it makes more sense to play two PG's with excellent PA then one PG and a SG with good shooting and so so PA.
He wont take many shots anyway so.


I think you are right. Sorry to shift the thread but, in your experience, would motion be competitive with LI if everyone has good passing?

From: Jay_m

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240723.30 in reply to 240723.28
Date: 4/22/2013 1:02:25 PM
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ok.

From: Big Dogs

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240723.32 in reply to 240723.29
Date: 4/22/2013 5:03:49 PM
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I've used Motion in past seasons, and I will be the first to tell you that PA on everyone will make the offense so much better. Whether or not it compares to LI, that depends on the matchup, but it's a good offense to run if your guards have good PA>JS>HA=DR>IS, and bigs have primaries, along with some PA=HA>DR=JS.

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